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Ïðèâåò
Äà âñå òàêæå, êàêàÿ òóò åùå äèíàìèêà â õðîíè –
óõóäøàåòñÿ - ÷åò ïðèìåíÿþ,
ß òóò çàâîäèëà íà ïàðàëëåëüíîé âåòêå âîïðîñ ñâîé , ÷óøü îïÿòü êàêóþ òî ïèøóò.
Âîîáùåì íå âðà÷ ó íàñ à îäíî íàçâàíèå, ìóäàêè îäíèì ñëîâîì.
Òîêà è óìåþò âîäó èç ïîä ïóñòîãî ïîðîæíÿ ïåðåëèâàòü....
Òû æ ñàìà íà âîïðîñû íå îòâå÷àëà, êîòîðûå òåáå â ïàðàëëåëüíîé âåòêå çàäàâàëè,
òâåðäèëà òîëüêî ïðî ñâîè îòâåòû ïðî ÈÔÀ è ñëåçíî ïðîñèëà îòâåòèòü – èåðñèíèîç ýòî èëè íåò.
×òî òû âàùå õîòåëà óñëûøàòü – òåáå ñêàçàëè ÷òî ýòî íå èåðñèíèîç.
Âîîáùåì ñäàëà ÿ â òîêñèëàáå, ñëûøàë ïðî òàêóþ ëàáó?íîðìàëüíàÿ îíà, êòî ïðîâåðÿë?
âîîáùåì ïî èõ âåðñèè âñå ó ìåíÿ îòðèöàòåëüíî, è ðàéòà, è õåíäåëüñîíà, è èôà.
ÿ ïðî áðóöåëëåç.
íó âîò, òåïåðü òû íàäåþñü ïîíèìàåøü ÷òî ýòî íå áðóöåëëåç…
òåìïåðàòóðà îïÿòü ïîÿâèëàñü.
ëå÷ó ñåé÷àñ èåðñèíèîç ( â ñóùåñòâîâàíèè êîòîðîãî è ñàìà ñîìíåâàþñü) )))
È ýòî ê ëå÷åíèþ îò èåðñèíèîçó íè èìååò íè êàêîãî îòíîøåíèÿ. Ýòîò òèòð áóäåò äåðæàòüñÿ äîëãî, ÷óòü êîëåáëÿñü òóäà ñþäà (íó ýòî ïî îïûòó íàðîäà èç ýòîãî òîïà).
À ñ àëüôà-íîðìèêñîì , îïÿòü òàêè ïî îïûòó íàðîäó èç òîïà :
íó ïîìîæåò íà íåêîòîðîå âðåìÿ, ïîòîì âñå çàíîâî
äóìàþ çàáèòü óæå íà ýòî äåëî, èëè åàéòè ìîæåò ãäå â åâðîïå îáñëåäûâàþò ëèõîðàäêó íåÿñíîãî ãåíåçà, íå ñëûøàë,íèêòî íå åçäèë?!
Âîîáùåì â Ðîññèè âñå áîëåå äîñòóïíî, ÷åì òàì ó íèõ çà áóãðîì.
È ñêèíü â ëè÷êó ìûëî õîòÿ áû – áóì òàì ïî íåìó ïåðåïèñûâàòüñÿ, èëè ïèøè íà ìîå ÷òî â ïåðâîì ïîñòå òîïà. À âàùå äàâíî ïîðà êîìï ïðèîáðåñòü, è ñêàéï çàþçàòü .Ïîñëåäíèé ðàç ðåäàêòèðîâàëîñü serg28; 27.05.2010 â 19:36.
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×èòàòåëü Íåäóã.Ðó
Ïî÷èòàéòå âíèìàòåëüíî http://toksoplaz.org.ua/. Ïîèùèòå õàðàêòåðíûå ïðèçíàêè ýòîãî çàáîëåâàíèÿ â èíòåðíåòå.
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×èòàòåëü Íåäóã.Ðó
Âñå òîæå ñàìîå âñå ñèìïòîìû, íî íåíàøåë îäíîãî, ó êîãî âîçíèêàåò ñëàáîñòü è ïîòëèâîñòü ïîñëå ñëàäêîé êðàõìàëèñòîé ïèùè?
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Ñäàë ñâåæóþ èììóíîãðàììó , ðåçóëüòàòû óëó÷øèëèñü
ñðàçó äàþ ññûëêó ññûëêó íà ñòàðóþ (ïîñò #1093 ýòîé âåòêè, íà ñëó÷àé åñëè ññûëêè ñìåíÿòüñÿ) , ÷òî áû áûëî ñ ÷åì ñðàâíèâàòü.
Èììóíîëîãè÷åñêèå èññëåäîâàíèÿ
Êîëè÷åñòâî ëèìôîöèòîâ è èõ ñóáïîïóëÿöèé â ïåðèôåðè÷åñêîé êðîâè
........................êîëè÷åñòâî îòíîñèòåëüíîå........ àáñîëþòíîå
Ëåéêîöèòû......................................... .......8.00....10^9/ë (4.00-9.00)
Ëèìôîöèòû............................29.0 % (19.0-37.0)..2320.......... (1200-2500)
CD3+......(Ò-ëèìôîöèòû)..............76.... (52-76)......1763.......... (950-1800)
CD3+CD(16+56)+ (ÒNK-êëåòêè)..........3.9....(0.1-8.0)....90............ (5-200)
CD3+CD4+(Ò-õåëïåðû)..................58.00 *(31.0-46.0)..1346 *........ (570-1100)
CD3+CD8+ (Ò-êèëëåðû)................ 15 *.. (23.0-40.0)..348 *..........(450-850)
CD4+CD8+ (äóáëü-ïîçèòèâíûå Ò-êëåòêè) 0.9....(0.1-1.5)....21 *.......... (5-18)
CD3-CD8+ (àêòèâèðîâàííûå NK-êëåòêè)..3.0....(1.5-6.0)....70............ (18-150)
Ñîîòíîøåíèå CD4/CD8..................3.87 * (1.00-1.70)....
CD3-CD(16+56)+ (NK-êëåòêè).......... 10.... (9-19)...... 232............(180-420)
CD19+ (B-ëèìôîöèòû)..................12.... (6.0-18.0).. 278............(150-450)
CD25+ (Ðåöåïòîð ÈË-2)................6.8....(2.0-11.0).. 158............(90-300)
HLA DR+..............................15.0.. (6.0-22.0).. 348............(150-550)
CD3+HLA DR+(àêòèâèðîâàííûå T-êëåòêè) 2.80.. (0.00-5.00)..65............ (0-120)
CD(16+56)+HLA DR+ (àêòèâ NK-êëåòêè)..0.70.. (0.00-1.10)..16............ (0-30)
CD95+................................3......(2-7)........70............ (50-160)
Ïàðàìåòðû öèòîêèíîâîãî çâåíà èììóíèòåòà
Ïðîäóêöèÿ......ñïîíòàííàÿ........ èíäóöèðîâàííàÿ........ñîäåðæàíèå â ñûâîðîòêå
ÔÍÎ-à........: 29 ïã/ìë (0-50)....691 ïã/ìë (500-1500)..14 ïã/ìë......(0-50)
Ïðîäóêöèÿ......ñïîíòàííàÿ........ èíäóöèðîâàííàÿ........ñîäåðæàíèå â ñûâîðîòêå
ÈË-10........: 87 * ïã/ìë (0-50)..173 ïã/ìë (100-400).. 32 ïã/ìë......(0-50)
Èììóíîãëîáóëèíû ñûâîðîòêè
IgA........................ : 5.64 *....ã/ë..(0.90-4.50)
IgM........................ : 0.52 *....ã/ë..(0.60-2.50)
IgG........................ : 20.05 *.. ã/ë..(8.00-18.00)
Öèðêóëèðóþùèå èììóííûå êîìïëåêñû
âûñîêîìîëåêóëÿðíûå............ :..9........ó.å.........(0-50)
ñðåäíåìîëåêóëÿðíûå............ :..47...... ó.å.........(0-60)
íèçêîìîëåêóëÿðíûå..............:..116......ó.å.... .....(0-130)
Ñèñòåìà íåéòðîôèëüíûõ ãðàíóëîöèòîâ
Áàêòåðèöèäíîñòü íåéòðîôèëîâ
Ïðîäóêöèÿ......ñïîíòàííàÿ..............èíäóöèðîâàí íàÿ..............èíäåêñ ñòèìóëèðîâàíèÿ
ÍÑÒ-òåñò.... : 86 Åä/ìëí.êë. (70-120)..146 * Åä/ìëí.êë (150-200).. 1,7..(1.2-2.0)
Ôàãîöèòîç íåéòðîôèëîâ
Ôàãîöèòîç......................:..65........%..... ...(65-88)
Èíäåêñ ôàãîöèòîçà..............:..2.2 *..............(2.3-3.0)
Çàâåðøåííîñòü ôàãîöèòîçà...... :..0.90 *............ (1.0-10.0)
Àóòîàíòèòåëà
Àíòèíóêëåàðíûå àíòèòåëà (ANA)..........:..0.5........èíäåêñ..(0.1-1.0)
Àíòèíåéòðîôèëüíûå àíòèòåëà (ANCA-MPO)..:..5.0................(0.0-5.0)
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Êëèíè÷åñêèå èññëåäîâàíèÿ
...... Êëèíè÷åñêèé àíàëèç êðîâè (ïîëíûé+òðîìáîöèòû)
Ýðèòðîöèòû................: 5.30........10^12/ë.. (4.00-5.50)
Ãåìîãëîáèí................: 151........ ã/ë...... (130-170)
Ãåìàòîêðèò................: 46.1........%........ (40.0-48.0)
Ñðåä.îáúåì ýðèòðîöèòà.... : 87.0........ôë........(80.0-99.0)
Ñð.ñîäåðæ.Hb â ýðèòðîöèòå : 28.4........ïã........(27.0-33.3)
Ñð.êîíö.Hb â ýðèòðîöèòå.. : 327.0...... ã/ë...... (310.0-380.0)
Èíäåêñ ðàñï.ïî îáúåìó ýð. : 13.5........%........ (12.0-15.0)
Òðîìáîöèòû................: 417 *...... 10^9/ë....(180-320)
Ëåéêîöèòû................ : 8.00........10^9/ë....(4.00-9.00)
ÑÎÝ...................... : 24 *........ìì/÷àñ....(1-10)
........................îòíîñèòåëüíûå............. ...àáñîëþòíûå
Ï/ÿ íåéòðîôèëû........: 1.0.... % (1.0-5.0)........ 0.08....10^9/ë..(0.04-0.30)
Ñ/ÿ íåéòðîôèëû........: 57.0....% (47.0-72.0)...... 4.56....10^9/ë..(2.00-5.50)
Ëèìôîöèòû............ : 29.0....% (19.0-37.0)...... 2.3.... 10^9/ë..(1.2-3.0)
Ìîíîöèòû..............: 9.0.... % (3.0-11.0)........0.72 *..10^9/ë..(0.09-0.60)
Ýîçèíîôèëû............: 3.0.... % (0.5-5.0)........ 0.240.. 10^9/ë..(0.020-0.300)
Áàçîôèëû..............: 1.0.... % (0.0-1.0)........ 0.080 * 10^9/ë..(0.000-0.065)
Òèï îáðàçöà.......... : Âåíîçíàÿ êðîâü
...................................... Âðà÷ (ïîäïèñü)
Êëèíè÷åñêèå èññëåäîâàíèÿ
...... Êëèíè÷åñêèé àíàëèç ìî÷è
Ôèçèêî-õèìè÷åñêèå ñâîéñòâà
Êîëè÷åñòâî................: 30..........ìë
Öâåò......................: ñîëîìåííî-æåëòûé
Ïðîçðà÷íîñòü..............: ïðîçðà÷íàÿ
Îòíîñèòåëüíàÿ ïëîòíîñòü.. : 1.027 *................(1.018-1.026)
Ðåàêöèÿ.................. : 5.5....................(5.0-7.0)
Áåëîê.................... : 0.190 *.... ã/ë........(0.000-0.120)
Ãëþêîçà.................. : 0.00........ììîëü/ë
Ìèêðîñêîïè÷åñêèå èññëåäîâàíèÿ
Ýïèòåëèé ïëîñêèé..........: 0-0-1................
Ëåéêîöèòû................ : 0-1-3................
Ýðèòðîöèòû................: 0-1-2................
Ñëèçü.................... : 1......
Ñîëè......................: îêñàëàòû Ñà â áîëüøåì êîëè÷åñòâå
â íîðìó âîøëè ÔÍÎ (øêàëèë î÷åíü ñèëüíî) è â íîðìó âñòàë ÀÍÀ ,
òàê ÷òî íå âñå ïðîïàëî, ïîñêîëüêó ñîñòîÿíèå òîæå íåñêîëüêî óëó÷øèëîñü.Ïîñëåäíèé ðàç ðåäàêòèðîâàëîñü serg28; 04.07.2010 â 04:44.
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×èòàòåëü Íåäóã.Ðó
Íó êàê òóò ó âàñ óñïåõè âûëå÷èëè êàâîíèáóäü ?
ß àíàëèç íà òîêñîïëàçìîç çäàâàë ðåçóëüòàòû òàêèå
òîêñîïëàçìà IgM-îòðèöàòåëüíûé
Òîêñîïëàçìà IgG-1.9 è êàêîåòî ñëîâî ðÿäîì òîëè "ìåâèí" òîëè "ìåâèë" (äî 11 ) ÷òî ýòî çíà÷èò ?
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×èòàòåëü Íåäóã.Ðó
Äà òîæå õîòåëîñü óñëûøàòü íàøëàñü ëè ïðè÷èíà? Ñàì ìó÷àþñü óæå êàê 2 ãîäà.
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Ó íàñ íàðîä ïîøåë ïî ðàçíûì íàïðàâëåíèÿì
Îò ñèìïòîìîâ íà âñå ñòî íè êòî íå èçáàâèëñÿ, ïðîñòî åñòü ïîëîæèòåëüíàÿ äèíàìèêà – ó êîãî ñèëüíî ïîëîæèòåëüíàÿ , ó êîãî íå ñèëüíî
Ýòî íå òîêñîïëàçìà , åñëè ïðî òåìàòèêó äàííîãî òîïà.
Äà è âàì ïðè òàêèõ òèòðàõ â ñòîðîíó òîêñîïëàçìû ìîæíî è íå ñìîòðåòü
íå ïîíÿòíî…. íî âñå îäíî – òèòðû òàêèå ÷òî íè êàêàÿ íå òîêñîïëàçìà
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Ïðèâåò âñåì. ß, ïîõîæå, íå ñîâñåì èç âàøèõ, íî ÷òî-òî áëèçêîå ê òîìó. Áîëåþ áîëüøå 10 ëåò.
Ñêàæèòå, à ïðîâåðÿë ëè êòî-íèáóäü èç ýòîãî òîïèêà CD-57? Äóìàþ, êòî â òåìå, ïîíèìàåò, ê ÷åìó ÿ îá ýòîì ñïðàøèâàþ?
È ìîæíî ëè åãî ñäåëàòü ãäå-íèáóäü â Ðîññèè?
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Ñäàë ñâåæóþ èììóíîãðàììó ïîñëå òåðàïèè, äàþ ññûëêó íà ñòàðóþ (ïîñò #1460 ýòîé âåòêè, íà ñëó÷àé åñëè ññûëêè ñìåíÿòüñÿ) , ÷òî áû áûëî ñ ÷åì ñðàâíèâàòü.
Áèîõèìè÷åñêèå èññëåäîâàíèÿ
IgA, IgM, IgG (ìåòîäîì òóðáîäèìåòðèè)
IgA............................4.24.... ã/ë.... (0.90-4.50)
IgM............................0.75.... ã/ë.... (0.60-2.50)
IgG............................23.32 *..ã/ë.... (8.00-18.00)
Èììóíîëîãè÷åñêèå èññëåäîâàíèÿ
Êîëè÷åñòâî ëèìôîöèòîâ è èõ ñóáïîïóëÿöèé â ïåðèôåðè÷åñêîé êðîâè
........................êîëè÷åñòâî îòíîñèòåëüíîå........ àáñîëþòíîå
Ëåéêîöèòû......................................... .......7.50....10^9/ë (4.00-9.00)
Ëèìôîöèòû............................30.0 % (19.0-37.0)..2250.......... (1200-2500)
CD3+......(Ò-ëèìôîöèòû)..............73.... (52-76)......1643.......... (950-1800)
CD3+CD(16+56)+ (ÒNK-êëåòêè)..........3.8....(0.1-8.0)....86............ (5-200)
CD3+CD4+(Ò-õåëïåðû)..................54.00 *(31.0-46.0)..1215 *........ (570-1100)
CD3+CD8+ (Ò-êèëëåðû)................ 14.00 *(23.0-40.0)..315 *..........(450-850)
CD4+CD8+ (äóáëü-ïîçèòèâíûå Ò-êëåòêè) 0.6....(0.0-1.1)....14............ (5-15)
CD3-CD8+ (àêòèâèðîâàííûå NK-êëåòêè)..5.6....(1.5-6.0)....126............(18-150)
Ñîîòíîøåíèå CD4/CD8..................3.86 * (1.00-1.70)....
CD3-CD(16+56)+ (NK-êëåòêè).......... 13.... (9-19)...... 293............(180-420)
CD19+ (B-ëèìôîöèòû)..................12.0.. (6.0-18.0).. 270............(150-450)
CD25+ (Ðåöåïòîð ÈË-2)................6.3....(2.0-11.0).. 142............(90-300)
HLA DR+..............................16.0.. (6.0-22.0).. 360............(150-550)
CD3+HLA DR+(àêòèâèðîâàííûå T-êëåòêè) 2.00.. (0.00-5.00)..45............ (0-120)
CD(16+56)+HLA DR+ (àêòèâ NK-êëåòêè)..0.50.. (0.00-1.10)..11............ (0-30)
CD95+................................2......(2-7)........45 *.......... (50-160)
Êîëè÷åñòâî Â-ëèìôîöèòîâ CD19+CD5+ â ïåðèôåðè÷åñêîé êðîâè
Êîëè÷åñòâî Â-ëèìôîöèòîâ CD19+CD5+....4.2 *. (0.0-3.5)....95 * êîë-âî/ìêë (0-90)
Ïàðàìåòðû öèòîêèíîâîãî çâåíà èììóíèòåòà
Ïðîäóêöèÿ......ñïîíòàííàÿ........ èíäóöèðîâàííàÿ........ñîäåðæàíèå â ñûâîðîòêå
ÔÍÎ-à........: 29 ïã/ìë (0-50)....579 ïã/ìë (500-1500)..2 ïã/ìë......(0-50)
Èììóíîãëîáóëèíû ñûâîðîòêè
Ñåêðåòîðíûé IgA (ñûâîðîòêà)..........3.70 *.. ìêã/ìë....(1.50-3.00)
Öèðêóëèðóþùèå èììóííûå êîìïëåêñû
âûñîêîìîëåêóëÿðíûå.................. 5........ó.å.......(0-50)
ñðåäíåìîëåêóëÿðíûå.................. 22...... ó.å.......(0-60)
íèçêîìîëåêóëÿðíûå....................89...... ó.å.......(0-130)
Àóòîàíòèòåëà
ANCA-àíòè.... ( pANCA )..............2.00.... U/ml......(0.1-1.0)
ANCA àíòè-PR3 ( cANCA )..............4.00.... U/ml......(0.1-1.0)
ORGENTEC.Germany.
Àíòèòåëà ê Saccharomyces cerevisiae....( ASCA ) IgA......3.00.... U/ml......(<10.00)
Àíòèòåëà ê Saccharomyces cerevisiae....( ASCA ) IgG......8.00.... U/ml......(<10.00)
Êëèíè÷åñêèå èññëåäîâàíèÿ
...... Êëèíè÷åñêèé àíàëèç êðîâè (ïîëíûé+òðîìáîöèòû)
Ýðèòðîöèòû................: 5.30........10^12/ë.. (4.00-5.50)
Ãåìîãëîáèí................: 155........ ã/ë...... (130-170)
Ãåìàòîêðèò................: 44.3........%........ (40.0-48.0)
Ñðåä.îáúåì ýðèòðîöèòà.... : 88.0........ôë........(80.0-99.0)
Ñð.ñîäåðæ.Hb â ýðèòðîöèòå : 30.8........ïã........(27.0-33.3)
Ñð.êîíö.Hb â ýðèòðîöèòå.. : 350.0...... ã/ë...... (310.0-380.0)
Èíäåêñ ðàñï.ïî îáúåìó ýð. : 12.7........%........ (12.0-15.0)
Òðîìáîöèòû................: 366 *...... 10^9/ë....(180-320)
Èíäåêñ ðàñï.ïî îáúåìó òð. : 13.6........ôë........(12.3-16.3)
Òðîìáîêðèò................: 0.268...... %........ (0.159-0.269)
Ëåéêîöèòû................ : 7.50........10^9/ë....(4.00-9.00)
ÑÎÝ...................... : 22 *........ìì/÷àñ....(1-15)
........................îòíîñèòåëüíûå............. ...àáñîëþòíûå
Ï/ÿ íåéòðîôèëû........: 4.0.... % (1.0-5.0)........ 0.30....10^9/ë..(0.04-0.30)
Ñ/ÿ íåéòðîôèëû........: 58.0....% (47.0-72.0)...... 4.35....10^9/ë..(2.00-5.50)
Ëèìôîöèòû............ : 30.0....% (19.0-37.0)...... 2.3.... 10^9/ë..(1.2-3.0)
Ìîíîöèòû..............: 7.0.... % (3.0-11.0)........0.53....10^9/ë..(0.09-0.60)
Ýîçèíîôèëû............: 1.0.... % (0.5-5.0)........ 0.075.. 10^9/ë..(0.020-0.300)
Òèï îáðàçöà.......... : Âåíîçíàÿ êðîâü
Áèîõèìè÷åñêèå èññëåäîâàíèÿ
Êðåàòèíèí.................. 108........ìêìîëü/ë.... (50-115)
Ìî÷åâàÿ êèñëîòà............ 471 *......ìêìîëü/ë.... (140-420)
Âîîáùåì ÔÍÎ òåïåðü äåðæèòñÿ â íîðìå, ANA óæå íå ñòàë ñäàâàòü
Èììóíîãëîáóëèíû IgA , IgM – ïðèøëè â íîðìó, IgG – ïî ïðåæíåìó çàâûøåí
Ôàãîöèòîç – íå ñäàâàë â ýòîò ðàç.
ÑÎÝ, Òðîìáîöèòû – ïî ïðåæíåìó âûñîêèå, íî òðîìáîöèòû ñíèæàþòñÿ, ïðèáëèæàÿñü ê íîðìå.
Êðåàòèíèí â ñûâîðîòêå – ïðèøåë â íîðìó
Ìî÷åâàÿ êèñëîòà ïî ïðåæíåìó çàâûøåíà.Ïîñëåäíèé ðàç ðåäàêòèðîâàëîñü serg28; 23.04.2011 â 16:23.
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Ïðåäûäóùèé ïîñò óæå "çàìîðîçèëñÿ", íå ïîïðàâèòü
îøèáñÿ â íîðìàõ
pANCA è cANCA - íîðìà (0.1-5.0)
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Äà íå ñåêðåò ,
ðåäêèé ïðåïàðàò êîòîðûé ó íàñ çàïðåùåí, è äàæå áûâàþò ñìåðòåëüíûå ñëó÷àè, òàê ÷òî íàçûâàòü íå áóäó êîíå÷íî, äàæå â ëè÷êó.
Ñêàæó ÷òî âñå êòî åãî ïèë èç íàøåãî ôîðóìà, íå ñìîãëè äîëãî ïðîäåðæàòüñÿ - ñèëüíî ñèìïòîìû ðàçãîíÿåò , äîïèëè äî 3-õ äíåé è áðîñàþò
Ïðåïàðò ìîæíî êóïèòü òîëüêî çà ãðàíèöåé, ïðèìåíÿåòñÿ ïðîòèâ òêàíåâûõ ôîðì ãåëüìèíòîâ è ïðîòèâ ïëåñåíè
Ñàì ÿ ïðåäïîëàãàþ ÷òî ó ìåíÿ ãðèáû (ïðè ýòîì âñÿêèå ôëþêîíàçîëû êèäàåì ôòîïêó)
Òîëüêî íå íàäî çàíèìàòüñÿ ãàäàíèåì â òîïèêåÏîñëåäíèé ðàç ðåäàêòèðîâàëîñü serg28; 24.04.2011 â 16:44.