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  1. Jet
    #16
    ×èòàòåëü Íåäóã.Ðó
    Ó áîëüíîãî áåðóò êðîâü ñïåöèàëüíûì øïðèöåì, â êîòîðîì íàõîäÿòñÿ êðîøå÷íûå ñòåêëÿííûå øàðèêè ñ îñîáûì ïîêðûòèåì. Âçÿòàÿ êðîâü ïîä âîçäåéñòâèåì èíîðîäíûõ òåë ñðàçó æå íà÷èíàåò âûðàáàòûâàòü âåùåñòâî ïðîòèâ àðòðîçà, êîòîðîå çàòåì âûäåëÿåòñÿ è èçîëèðóåòñÿ â ëàáîðàòîðèè áèîìåäèöèíñêèì ñïîñîáîì. Ïîëó÷åííûé ìåäèêàìåíò èñïîëüçóåòñÿ äëÿ èíúåêöèé: åãî âïðûñêèâàþò â áîëüíîé ñóñòàâ.  òå÷åíèå ñ÷èòàííûõ íåäåëü áîëè èñ÷åçàþò.

    "Ó, áðàò... ýòî æóëèêè" (ñ)

    "Íå ïðÿ÷üòå âàøè äåíåæêè ïî áàíêàì è óãëàì" (ñ)

  2. Ìàêñ
    #17
    ×èòàòåëü Íåäóã.Ðó
    Ãîñïîäèí Ðàäèîíîâ,

    ÿ ïðîñìîòðåë ôîðóì è ïîíÿë, ÷òî òåðìèí Orthokin íå î÷åíü çíàêîì â Ðîññèè. Íàïðèìåð òóò, ïî÷òè â êîíöå òîïèêà http://forums./showthread.php?t=12089&page=2&pp=15 à ïîýòîìó ìîãó ïîíÿòü ñêåïòè÷åñêèé õàðàêòåð Âàøåé øóòêè Íåçíàíèå âñåãäà ïîðîæäàåò íåäîâåðèå. Òàêîâà íàøà ÷åëîâå÷åñêàÿ ëîãèêà.

    Íà ñàìîì äåëå âñ¸ íå òàê ïðîñòî.Ñòåêëÿííûå øàðèêè, íà ñàìîì äåëå ñëîæíûé õèìè÷åñêèé ðåàãåíò. È íèêàêèõ çàêëèíàíèé ïðè ñèíòåçå ïðèçíîñèòü íå íàäî. Èíôîðìàöèè íà ðóññêîì ÿçûêå ïðàêòè÷åñêè íåò, ïîýòîìó ïîêàçàë ãîñïîæå Íàäåæäà.Æ òî , ÷òî íàøëîñü. È, íà ìîé âçãëÿä, â äîñòóïíîé ôîðìå. Íàïðèìåð â Ãåðìàíèè, ýòà òåðàïèÿ øèðîêî ðàñïðîñòðàíåíà è äîñòàòî÷íî ýôôåêòèâíà. È óæ åñëè ÷àñòíûå ìåä. ñòðàõîâûå êîìïàíèè Ãåðìàíèè ïðèçíàþò è îïëà÷èâàþò ïàöèåíòàì ýòó òåðàïèþ, òî ýòî óæå î ÷¸ì òî ãîâîðèò.

    Åñëè Âû ïîíèìàåòå íåìåöêèé, è åñòü æåëàíèå, ïî÷èòàéòå, íàïðèìåð òóò. http://www.orthogen.com/downloads/deutsch/orthokin_pm2.pdf èëè òóò, íà àíãëèéñêîìhttp://www.orthogen.com/downloads/deutsch/inflammationresearch_orthokin_2003.pdf

    Îäîáðèâøèì Âàøå ñîîáùåíèå, òîæå ðåêîìåíäóþ...

    È æåëàþ óäà÷è !

  3. çâåçäà
    #18
    ×èòàòåëü Íåäóã.Ðó
    Ãîñïîäèí systemshock, ÿ ïðîñìîòðåë ôîðóì è ïîíÿë, ÷òî ðóññêîå èìÿ ÐÎäèîí (ïðîèçâîäíîå ìîåé ôàìèëèè) çíàêîìî äàëåêî íå âñåì



    Íî ê äåëó!

    Åñëè Âû ïðîñìîòðåëè ôîðóì âíèìàòåëüíî, òî, íàâåðíîå îáðàòèëè âíèìàíèå, ÷òî ãîâîðÿ î íîâûõ ìåòîäàõ ëå÷åíèÿ ïðèíÿòî äîêàçûâàòü èõ ÊËÈÍÈ×ÅÑÊÓÞ ýôôåêòèâíîñòü.

    Äàâàéòå ïîñìîòðèì, ÷òî Âû íàì ïðåäëàãàåòå:



    The production of antiinflammatory cytokines in whole blood

    by physico-chemical induction



    Abstract. Objective and design: Cytokines such as interleukin-

    1 (IL-1) play an important role in degenerative musculo-

    skeletal diseases, including osteoarthritis, and a multitude

    of inflammatory disorders. Agents that inhibit the action

    of such cytokines have a high therapeutic potential in such

    diseases. Here we describe a new method for enhancing the

    production of the interleukin-l-receptor antagonist (IL-1Ra)

    and other anti-inflammatory cytokines in whole blood.

    Material and methods: Human venous blood was incubated

    in the presence of CrSO4-treated glass beads. Serum was

    recovered and the concentrations of IL-1Ra and other relevant

    cytokines were measured by ELISA. Òàê, ïîíÿë...  ÷åëîâå÷åñêóþ âåíîçíóþ êðîâü ïîìåùàëè øàðèêè, îáðàáîòàííûå ñóëüôàòîì õðîìà. Ìåðÿëè èíòåðëåéêèíû.



    Results: The interaction of the glass bead surface with cells

    in whole blood increased production of IL-1Ra and antiinflammatory

    cytokines. Removal of the beads and centrifugation

    generated a serum preparation enriched in antiinflammatory

    cytokines. This preparation may be of therapeutic

    value in treating various inflammatory and degenerative

    disorders.

    ÌÎÆÅÒ ÁÛÒÜ - êëþ÷åâîå ñëîâî..

    Conclusions: The increased de novo production of antiinflammatory

    cytokines by a direct physico-chemical induction

    of whole blood is feasible and offers an alternative, novel

    approach to treating mild to moderate OA and other

    orthopaedic conditions such as degenerative spine diseases.



    À âîò îòêóäà â âûâîäàõ èäåÿ î âîçìîæíîñòè ëå÷åíèÿ ÎÀ è åùå mild to moderate - ñîâåðøåííî íåïîíÿòíî.



    Íàïèñàëè áû ÷åñòíî - åñòü äàííûå ëàáîðàòîðíûõ èññëåäîâàíèé... âîçìîæíî â ïåðñïåêòèâå... íåîáõîäèìû äàëüíåéøèå êëèíè÷åñêèå èññëåäîâàíèÿ.



    À âîò ðåêîìåíäîâàòü ñîâåðøåííî ÊËÈÍÈ×ÅÑÊÈ íå ïðîâåðåííûé ìåòîä áîëüíûì, äà åùå è áðàòü çà ýòî äåíüãè, êàê çà "íîâåéøèé áåñïðåöåäåíòíûé.. íå èìåþùèé àíàëîãîâ.. íå èçâåñòíûé ñåðûì ðîññèéñêèì âðà÷àì.." - ýòî, ñîððè, ñâèíñòâî.

  4. Èðèíà ß
    #19
    ×èòàòåëü Íåäóã.Ðó
    Ãîñïîäèí Ðîäèîíîâ, (çàìåòüòå, èñïðàâëåííàÿ âåðñèÿ )



    Íó ñîãëàñèòåñü, Âû ïîâûõâàòûâàëè ÷àñòü èíôîðìàöèè, êîòîðàÿ ïîìîãåò Âàì îòñòîÿòü ñâîþ òî÷êó çðåíèÿ. È ýòî ïîíÿòíî. Íî ôîðóì äèñêóññèîííûé è ìû äèñêóòèðóåì.

    ß íå áåðó äåíüãè, à òåì áîëåå íå ïðåäîñòàâëÿþ óñëóãè, à òîëüêî äàë èíôîðìàöèþ. Ïîýòîìó "ñâèíñòâî" è âñ¸ ÷òî òàì äàëüøå Âàìè äîáàâëåíî, î ñåðîñòè è ò.ä., ïðîïóñêàþ ìèìî óøåé è îáñóæäàòü íå æåëàþ. Ýòî áûëà öèòàòà èç ñòàòüè â ðîññèéñêîé ãàçåòå. Îñòàëüíîå Âû ñàìè äîáàâèëè. Õîòÿ... "Äèêëîôåíàê íå ïîìîãàåò, òåðàôëåêñ, ìèëîêñ òàê æå íå ïîìîãàþò..." Ïàöèåíòêà ïîëó÷èëà âñ¸ ÷òî ìîæíî ñ äîêàçàííûì è îáîñíîâàííûì êëèíè÷åñêèì ýôôåêòîì. È âèäèìî, äàëåêî íå áåñïëàòíî. Òàê ÷òî î ôèíàíñîâîé ñòîðîíå ìû ïîìîë÷èì. Êîíå÷íî, ìåäèöèíà íå âñåñèëüíà è âðà÷è íå âîëøåáíèêè. Ýòî âñ¸ ïîíÿòíî.

    Ñîãëàñèòåñü, ÷òî çà Orthkin ñòîèò ñåðü¸çíàÿ íàó÷íàÿ ïëàòôîðìà. Ñòàòüÿ, êîòîðóþ ÿ íàâñêèäêó òóò ïîêàçàë äàòèðîâàíà 2003 ãîäîì. Íà ñåãîäíÿøíèé äåíü åñòü ñòàòèñòè÷åñêèå è êëèíè÷åñêèå äàííûå. Êñòàòè, î÷åíü èíòåðåñíûå. Òàêèì îáðàçîì, "...âîçìîæíî â ïåðñïåêòèâå... ñîâåðøåííî ÊËÈÍÈ×ÅÑÊÈ íå ïðîâåðåííûé ìåòîä..." òóò íå óìåñòíî. Ýòî óæå ñåãîäíÿøíèé äåíü, ïîâñåäíåâíàÿ ïðàêòèêà. Ìîæåò ÿ íå ëó÷øóþ ñòàòüþ â ñïåøêå Âàì ïîêàçàë?

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