I ask the help from experts

[alex7]

I the spouse (25 years) yesterday was diagnosed autoimunnyj tireodit, with a hypothyrosis, a nodal struma (two tumours of 10 and 18 mm). Results of analyses 4 free 0,54, a thyritropic hormone *gt; 100,0 ??N/ml, antimikrosomalnye antibodies vyevlennye in rozved. 1 : 6553600. Clinical displays as are not present those. Looks or appears perfectly, excess weight is not present. Recommend to make a puncture. Prompt to do or make or not. There is an information that the puncture can to lead to a degeneration of cells of a thyroid gland in malignant. There is a desire to treat homeopathic agents and to not do or make a puncture. But we understand that we not experts, and desires to sozhadeniju not always correspond or meet to opportunities. Prompt what to do or make?

[Melnichenko]

*quot; Looks or Appears perfectly, excess weight ?NO*quot; - gipotiroz it is far not always at early stages it is shown by obvious disturbances.



*quot;. Recommend to make a puncture. Prompt to do or make or not. There is an information that the puncture can to lead to a degeneration of cells of a thyroid gland in ??a?N?OoN??UN*quot; - the information is erroneous.



*quot;. There is a desire to treat homeopathic ?ONn?Ooa??*quot; - the special form gipotiroza-a phase poslerodovgo tiroidita can help or assist, if at spouses, and this phase at half of patients passes or takes place independently, therefore the success of treatment can be attributed even Kashpirovsky's to flight in the plane above Ukraine in 1999

But even in the event that disease has developed after sorts or labors (probably, you have forgotten it to tell), gipotiroidnuju a phase recommend to treat.

[alex7]

Many thanks for that that have found time for the answer. There are no up to sorts or labors we do not send in addition or have reached, on 2 month there was a failure. Doctors speak it is not known as you in general could become pregnant. We have a desire during 6 months to spend treatment by grasses then to be surveyed and make a decision. Whether prompt we shall waste time in this case. Thankful in advance for the answer.

[Melnichenko]

At yours spouses the expressed failure of activity of a thyroid gland of an autoimmune parentage.

To you in fact will not come in a head to not water a plant suffering from a failure of water, having waited a month, poobsleduja it or him (by the way, and chtio you are going to still to investigate or research?), and then all to water.

Replaceable therapy - tiroksin-it that develops or produces in norm or rate of iron is offered to you.

Try to esteem on a site tironet for patients the information on gipotirozu (there are links with all foreign societies of patients), and if there will be questions, we shall be glad to respond.

[Tanya G]

Many thanks for that that have found time for the answer. There are no up to sorts or labors we do not send in addition or have reached, on 2 month there was a failure. Doctors speak it is not known as you in general could become pregnant. We have a desire during 6 months to spend treatment by grasses then to be surveyed and make a decision. Whether prompt we shall waste time in this case. Thankful in advance for the answer.

Moreover, if you will treat a hypothyrosis grasses and a homeopathy, chances become pregnant at yours spouses can and to not be...

[alex7]

Prompt still pozhajlusta one moment. In qualification of experts which us observe to doubt to not have but we would like to hear and your opinion. Doctors speak that at present shchitovidka at mine spouses practically does not work also they somnevajutsja that she would earn. You in an expert or a practice had cases that at such parameters vostanavlivalas function of a thyroid gland. And if a peer substitute of a puncture in a question of studying doborkachestkenosti a struma.

[Melnichenko]

Punktsionaaja the biopsy in your situation is spent more likely not for acknowledgement or confirmation of high quality (very few bases to doubt of this high quality), how much for acknowledgement or confirmation of the most probable opportunity, that sites actually are not present, and it is a question of pseudo-sites autoimmune tiroidita. By the way, begin you treatment (I vse-taki convincingly recommend prohonour Tironet for patients). Probably, the question on a biopsy would disappear months through 3-6.

The probability of spontaneous convalescence is rather low in your situation (where more often at a postnatal or puerperal parentage), but not nuulevaja.

If you will receive treatment problems will not be including with an establishment of the fact of restoration of activity of a gland

PS - the world champion 8-fold K.Ljuis has the same disease. Easy accepts the same preparation and wins...

[alex7]

Thanks big for the information.

[alex7]

We are going to in June in holiday, prompt pozhajlusta what climate more preferably. Can be eat kakieto spetsialniye health resorts or sanatoria. What restrictions in this plan exist.

[Melnichenko]

The real, proved restrictions which are distinct from obuslovlenyh by common sense, no.

[alex7]

Thanks

[alex7]

In current 4 months were treated by grasses today have received results of analyses (results 3 mes prescription):

Anti-h Tg *gt; 4100.0 IU/ml (1020,21)

TSH 98,34 mIU/L (106.8)

Free T4 10.33 pM (6.43)

TPO Ab 59.38 IU/mL (84.43)

Disturbs augmentation Anti-h Tg.

Prompt pozhajlusta ochem it speaks, can will suffice to accept homeopathic agents

[Light]

In current 4 months were treated by grasses today have received results of analyses (results 3 mes prescription):

Anti-h Tg *gt; 4100.0 IU/ml (1020,21)

TSH 98,34 mIU/L (106.8)

Free T4 10.33 pM (6.43)

TPO Ab 59.38 IU/mL (84.43)

Disturbs augmentation Anti-h Tg.

Prompt pozhajlusta ochem it speaks, can will suffice to accept homeopathic agents

Treatment by grasses - killed time.

At your wife serious gipotiroz. It is necessary to begin immediately replaceable therapy (to the endocrinologist!).

If hope to have children, the disadvantage of hormones of a thyroid gland should be compensated.

[alex7]

We understand it but the person always hopes for the best therefore and have begun this course. Prompt about what speaks mad augmentation Anti-h Tg

[Melnichenko]

These are banal digit for gipotiroza an autoimmune genesis, to recheck them it is not necessary. Please, are treated - and all. Treatment gipotiroza-one of the elementary problems or tasks in endocrinology...

Riddle are the reasons on which in hope for the best health is ruined and nonsenses are done or made.. The Cat brings to a kitten the mouse - because at predators quite often hypofunction shchitovdinoj glands - to it or him;them are a victim with a gland. The kitten eats 200 mkg of a thyroxine and does not run to mew to a homeopathist about the serious share. Ljudiju I work as presidents (and not only in the USA - notice) and become world champions on run. Receiving a thyroxine...

[Light]

We understand it but the person always hopes for the best therefore and have begun this course. Prompt about what speaks mad augmentation Anti-h Tg

The best for your wife is indemnification gipotiroza.

Risings of anti-bodies to be frightened it is not necessary, to treat them too it is not necessary. They only testify to the fact of disease of a thyroid gland (in case of your wife - about autoimmune tiroidite).

[alex7]

Today have made US. Its or his results in comparison with previous (3 mes prescription):

The left share up to 16,7 cube has increased. Sm (was 13,5), the right share 13,2 (was 13,4).

Three months ago spoke about two uzlovih a struma the right 14*10 mm, left 22*12, for today right is not present, left 24*14. Doctors again recommend to make a puncture. I ask you prokomentirujte pozhajlusta augmentation of the left share and absence of a nodal struma from the right party or side. If probability of that what is it influence of a homeopathy or there also was not any struma. And more prompt pozhajlusta a puncture will answer on high quality or only will tell or say is or not any educations.

[Melnichenko]

At your wife SERIOUS gipotiroz. TTG causes augmentation of a gland, and some sites can remind sites. The puncture should be made.

While TTG it is not normalized, the gland can uvelichivatsja-it or her in a peer measure stimulates both TTG 30, and TTG 8 - m.b., you vse-taki will begin lechitsja-in fact only after 2 months of reception of an adequate dose it is possible to hope on \ normalization TTG..

[alex7]

Kind day Galina Afanasevna!

I wish to ask you about consultation.

Briefly prehistory of my illness or disease spouses. problemi with shchitovidkoj we diagnosed this spring. But fools uchatsja on the mistakes or errors. We hoped that by means of homeopathic medicines we can start shchitovidku, to sozheleniju it has not turned out. Last results from 20.08.05

Anti-h Tg *gt; 4100.0 IU/ml

TSH 98,34 mIU/L

Free T4 10.33 pM

TPO Ab 59.38 IU/mL.

On October, 21st surpuga has addressed to the gynecologist, which opredili at it or her pregnancy (2 ned term) and because of threat of an abortion has urgently put it or her in hospital. During illness or disease of any hormonal preparations (eutiroks, etc.) we not prinemali. We have warned all doctors about problems with shchitovidkoj. Yesterday have taken analyses on hormones, today they should be ready then consultation of the endocrinologist. Then I shall ask again you about consultation.

On danyj the moment I want that you have prompted me already it can is now necessary to begin replaceable therapy.

[Melnichenko]

C!!!!! To begin replaceable therapy. The starting dose of a thyroxine of 100 mkg - is a question of a normal fetation. A hedgehog it would be better. If treatment has been begun UP TO pregnancy.

[alex7]

Have urgently started about 100 mkg of a preparation eutiroks. Next day have brought results of analyses free 4 - 11,19, TTG - 77, After week reception eutiroksa results free 4 - 10,6, TTG - 42, the endocrinologist has told or said to increase a dose up to 200 mkg (150 morning and 50 during the lunchtime) in a week again the analysis. Wanted if it is possible to learn or find out your opinion in occasion of augmentation of a dose and its or her distribution on time. Yours faithfully Alexander

[Light]

Alexander, it is not necessary *quot; to drive ??anN*quot;.

To start it was necessary from a dose of 50 mkg and SLOWLY, GRADUALLY to raise or increase a dose since it is necessary to accustom an organism to a normal metabolism.

To check TTG more often, than time in 2 months senselessly.

While let there is a dose of a L-thyroxine of 100 mkg, it is not necessary any more. In 2 months - an. On TTG and the decision on the further dose.

On the future: ALL DOSE of a L-thyroxine is accepted in the morning for 30 minutes up to meal, instead of in 2 receptions.

The dose of 200 mkg will be velikovata.

Specify your weight.

[alex7]

Weight of mine spouses of 49 kg, body height of 162 sm, age of 26 years. Have started with 100 according to Galina Afanasevny, that after that the attending physician has confirmed also. The reason of fast start pregnancy of my wife.

[Melnichenko]

Olga Jurevna! Here not before slow start - here pregnancy.. And here TTG to look it is not necessary 2-3 more month, a reference point - over 4.

And in general the version start low - go slow if is comprehensible, for elderly. The subject was specially discussed in Argentina or Argentitis one of these days.

[alex7]

It would be desirable to hear your opinion in occasion of 200 mkg and reception on time