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Leaf fall
07.11.2004, 12:20
Two weeks ago there was a fever-pain (as-as if with an iodine have filled in an open wound) in the field of lungs (trachea) in rajonoj to an out-patient department have appointed or nominated flemoksin- and erespal. For the fourth day of reception of antibiotics all ostavlos without changes, strong tussis has increased, in horizontal position there were pains in the bottom of a stomach or belly (not acute). Itself has replaced flemoksin on tsiprollet - began to drink two times a day on 500. Early in the morning for 6-day of illness or disease me have taken away on fast, with predv. Diagnoses it is acute. An adnexitis, o.pielonefrit. The gynecology has not proved to be true, after survey of the urologist has been hospitalized in unit with the diagnosis o.pielonefrit and have put a ptosis of a right kidney. Pressure 110/90. The doctor has reduced dose TSiproleta twice...., a saw furozalidon, Phytolysinum. In hospital have kept 5 days. For this time has passed or has taken place inspection - all in norm or rate - the kidney is lowered or omitted. The therapist puts o.traheit, a bronchitis, an ENT - o.faringit, a laryngitis.... All this time kept t. 37.2 - once podn. Up to 38.2 - have brought down. With this rate. Also have written out... On seg. Day proceeds strong tussis, besopokoit fever in a breast, uchashch. Palpitation, headaches, a giddiness, pains in the bottom of a stomach or belly (on the right)....
With what expert to begin inspection? I understand, that kidneys this consequence or investigation, lungs most likely too... It is necessary to find the reason.... To begin all with the lung specialist or from the good therapist who will direct or refer me? Where to find " a correct place " and " the correct doctor "?
And with focus me please about this fever.... Whether can the reason to be a cancer? It is at present ready to everything since samochustvie promptly worsens... To Me 28 years, married, are synulja, already half a year "worked" above the second and suddenly... Relatives save calmness since I do not create a panic and I do not complain.
I beg, help or assist!
07.11.04
39753 - 03.

Aritmolog
07.11.2004, 12:57
Possible or Probable circle of sores:
1. A reflux-esophagitis.
2. A hernia of an esophageal aperture of a diaphragm.
3. A gastritis, a ulcer.
4. Gynecologic disease.
5. An inflammation of a cholic bubble.

Pneumonia how I understand, have excluded? The electrocardiogram and the analysis of a blood did or made of a finger?

Descend or Go for the beginning to the gastroenterologist and make fibrogastroskopiju.

I would think of an oncology in the latest turn.

Leaf fall
07.11.2004, 15:04
All has understood, thanks big for the answer.
About an oncology - you know, is for some reason thought....: (
Appetite absolutely is not present, but I force to eat myself, the pain at a swallowing and digestion is not present absolutely. A chair regular, strong, the truth much more svetlee usual.... I Wait the extremity or end of days off....
Fljurografiju and the electrocardiogram did or made...., but there the terrible equipment.

Dr
07.11.2004, 15:58
[the Chair regular, strong, the truth much more svetlee usual.... I Wait the extremity or end of days off....
Fljurografiju and the electrocardiogram did or made...., but there the terrible equipment. [/B]

And what in the biochemical analysis of a blood, US of a liver \cholic of a bubble? Very much it would be desirable to know

Leaf fall
07.11.2004, 16:09
I regret..., but I in it or this cook nothing...
Very violent urologist has got to me (nothing explained, all time shouted and called me to be shot to not be excruciated...)... From its or his words - analyses normal.
And the US to me did or made during hospitalization - kidneys - result - all in norm or rate looked - even a ptosis have not noticed... Later, minutes through twenty the urologist - at once hospitalization has examined. So, that very much I doubt about it or this US........
Fever this very much frightens me... What is this a sign?

Dr
07.11.2004, 16:12
Yes to spit on the urologist of 100 times:). In hospital do or make the biochemical analysis of a blood almost always, no less than US of a cholic bubble and a liver. I need to know their results, and they are obliged to tell or say to you them. Are simply obliged also all:)

Leaf fall
07.11.2004, 16:17
Yes I also have spat....
And results... Is now till Tuesday, to Tuesday it is obliged to arrive behind an extract. By the way there is their sense to ask otkserit a case history? Will resolve?

Dr
07.11.2004, 16:27
the Initial report from the Leaf fall
Yes I also have spat....
And results... Is now till Tuesday, to Tuesday it is obliged to arrive behind an extract. By the way there is their sense to ask otkserit a case history? Will resolve?

Otkserit - hardly to look or see - are obliged. It is necessary for us:

1) the General or Common analysis wet
2) the Analysis wet obshcheklinichesky
3) the Analysis on nechiporenko
4) O-gram of organs of a thorax
5) AN ELECTROCARDIOGRAM
6) Uzi a liver and a cholic bubble
7) FEGDS
8) US of kidneys
9) Biochemistry of a blood - nuclear heating plant, ALT, a bilirubin - the MINIMUM

Here anything surprising, almost all this should make. If we saw you, it would be easier, and so - it is desirable to see these analyses. If you handed over a blood on HBSag - in general fine

Leaf fall
07.11.2004, 16:44
You in Moscow? Where it is possible to begin inspections and to hand over all these analyses?

Dr
07.11.2004, 16:54
the Initial report from the Leaf fall
You in Moscow? Where it is possible to begin inspections and to hand over all these analyses?

I in Moscow, and these analyses (a part precisely) you have already handed over all:). Also - an out-patient department or private or individual offices like invitro.ru, but the biochemistry of a blood there will rise dearly or expensively and the US will not make with rentgenom. Try the doctor to approach or suit in an out-patient department with cognac and to ask these analyses:). If it will not be possible certainly without cognac.

Aritmolog
07.11.2004, 22:19
In an extract from a hospital results of inspections should be specified all, that to you spent. If it or this is not present, you have the right to complain in the insurance company.
The cholic bubble is certainly important, but I would begin all the same with EGD. The first was fever in a breast...
By the way how much you weigh, the Leaf fall? Only it is fair! The cholecystitis is more characteristic to corpulent women...

Aritmolog
07.11.2004, 22:22
To biochemistry I would add:
Glucose, the general or common fiber, cholesterin, creatinine.
And more results of a blood from a finger with the leukocytic formula.
And I - in St.-Petersburg:).

Leaf fall
07.11.2004, 23:39
Komplektsija such, that at first sight - it is necessary to add killogramchikov... At body height 176 62 kg (during illness or disease a minus of 3 kg) weigh

Leaf fall
08.11.2004, 10:28
Today caused fast (a burning sensation this or thus foolish does not stop, convulsive fits of coughing, was afraid to lose soznanie-tongue has grown dumb) - intended to lay down in 57-, she as I has understood on the basis of scientific research institute of pulmonology. Doctors fast, having listened, have told or said rhonchuses like are not present, focus me on kokljush....
Whether Interesn the on duty phthisiatrician accepts somewhere? In regional tubdisp. I called - do not respond...

Dr
08.11.2004, 10:31
Why he anywhere did not hospitalize you? You AKDS that took root or were inoculated? How much in dn fits of coughing? What clears the throat or expectorates? A voice rhonchial or usual?

Leaf fall
08.11.2004, 13:32
In two-rub or -three days from first attributes of disease and then during approximately week the voice was got hoarse or hoarse at all. Laying in urology, went to LORu (o.laringit, o.faringit) nazn. Lavages a solution rotokana and hloreksidina, pinosol in a nose and srepsils - the simplification has come or stepped literally by the evening, but I rinsed or gargled a throat of times 10 in day... And a nose pawned only in horizontal position.... To an extract (day through three) and the voice was cut (has returned), now I speak hoarsely very little... Today the doctor on fast looked a throat, gov. zad.stenka all in abscesses (fol.)....
At me last night still ears began to shoot (:) - it is easier to list, that me does not hurt:), all over again has put in pawn (zalozh. sohr. Till now), and then to rake have begun... Now the husband has brought akva- in a nose, sofradeks (I think any more will not be worse, than an aural pain to suffer or bear) and I shall make the thoracal collecting.... I Hope it or this I shall not do much harm to myself...
Pressure 140/90 at mine 110/90
The child only would not be ill... It or he AKDS always has more than norm or rate, and has now gone to school, has had been ill with a pneumonia (3 ned has passed or has taken place) and shk. The doctor has directed it or him to ftiziatoru... And here I slegla... We for a long time tried to survey it or him - it or he has a constant morning tussis and a head sweats hardly-that, but for the reason searched not there as it was found out.... Showed its or his allergist, watched or kept up a dust, have bought or purchased a cleaner-..... All without changes. He by the way, in lists hangs - to him on medium will be an inoculation from kokljusha (if I am not mistaken) to do or make, in having combined. sit., I believe it is not necessary to do or make it or this?
Yes, at me at mum an asthma (we live not together) and the daddy sits on inhalers and pshikalkah (an emphysema and I suspect, not only she). He an afterbirth. Month to us has moved, and on vyh. On a summer residence, nask. I know it or him have undertaken nabl. prof. Novikov from scientific research institute of pulmonology and a phthisiology, recently handed over mokrou - the analysis still is not ready...
koljush this to be treated? Or now all life with it or him we shall be dragged?
I have a little become cheerful, since have ceased to think of an oncology and karina as it became seems to me more clearly. I wish to tell or say many thanks for support, as a matter of fact, has received it or her only on this site, well and doctors on fast today have inhaled in me a few or a little;little bit beliefs... Thanks.

Leaf fall
08.11.2004, 13:38
The sputum transparent when water you start to wash off departs, appear milk or dairy color of a layer. Periodichnost fits of coughing - approximately 2-3 prist. (for 5 minutes) at an o'clock...
AKDS to me probably did or made, to an extreme measure of taps or removals never took.

Aritmolog
08.11.2004, 14:21
Activity of an inoculation in due course passes or takes place. People after inoculations can be ill. If at you kokljush it is meaningful to pass or take place a course of antibiotics-: klaritromitsin 500 mg h 2 times - 7 - 10 days. Plus muoklitiki - ambroksol.
But also I all would make EGD. Success.

Leaf fall
10.11.2004, 18:35
Still time of thanks, to everyone who has responded.
8-th the blood from a nose (fountain), in ocher has gone. Time have caused or called -have agreed, that would put in 57 at scientific research institute of pulmonology and a phthisiology. Night has spent the night in an accident ward (all the night long flattened and kolbasilo), since morning me has examined the doctor the lung specialist - have made a roentgen easy or light;mild and more something on the display lungs looked... The Doctor, thanks him boshoe, has guessed a blood and an. Urine to take. A blood in norm or rate, and in urine: (designations I shall try to pass as it is possible more plausibly, it is written by hand)
Z Y - 20-30
E 1-2
0,033 * still any postscript nerazbor.
The diagnosis:
- abstr. A bronchitis (suspicion on an asthma), ORVI (in an ice crust. vr. An acute stage, about. A pharyngitis, a laryngitis, residual javl. A tracheobronchitis);
- hronich. A pyelonephritis in a stage of an exacerbation
Have appointed or nominated treatment, have invited after vyzdorvlenija through 2 ned. To pass or take place inspection.
Comment on treatment:
Lungs:
1. Teotard 200 * 2 r.v day in 12 hours
2. Lazolvan or ambrobene
3. supravstin.
Kidneys:
1. Palinum 2*2. (5 days)
2. L- to drink in tech. Day constantly
3. tsistepal
4. Vitamins (Undevitum)
Treatment has begun with yesterday's evening - renal attacks are saved...
In any case I have become cheerful, since the picture like has appeared.

Leaf fall
10.11.2004, 18:50
Yes, has still forgotten at the daddy in a sputum have found out:
1.streptococcus oralis/streptococcus mitis 1 10 ** 7
2.pseudomanas aeruginosa 10 ** 3
3.candida albicans 1 10 ** 5
predpologaem, what business in water (at us the private or individual house and the chink) how you consider or count, whether can cause it? And the analysis is better in SES or other place to do or make?

Aritmolog
11.11.2004, 01:05
Lungs:
1. Teotard 200 * 2 r.v day in 12 hours
2. Lazolvan or ambrobene
3. supravstin.

Not badly. Only instead of Suprastinum it is better tsiterizin (zirtek).

Kidneys:
1. Palinum 2*2. (5 days)
2. L- to drink in tech. Day constantly
3. tsistepal
4. Vitamins (Undevitum)

And here it does not suit anywhere!! Palinum - ancient and weak. The rest - bioadditives! The urology is now treated only ftorhinolonami (ciprofloxacin, ofloksatsin, etc.) and in good doses: ciprofloxacin of 500 mg h 2 times.

1.streptococcus oralis/streptococcus mitis 1 10 ** 7
2.pseudomanas aeruginosa 10 ** 3
3.candida albicans 1 10 ** 5
If it in a sputum water here there is nothing!!! Similar mushrooms and a pyocyanic rod are not found in water. The daddy to pierce fortumom (tseftazidim) in/m...

Leaf fall
11.11.2004, 08:40
At me derzhitsja temperature.... I pour cold then at night.
predpologaju what to appoint or nominate there were no me deliberately antibiotics that it was possible to find out in a consequence in me any mucks in a sputum...
By the way, now I start to understand, what is it too matters, about four years ago at me the first time have revealed a mycoplasma, a ureaplasma - treated it or her in tech. Years 3 - constantly found out... Then we with the husband on this business "have hammered" - forces any more were not...
To the daddy nazn.:
- tsiprobaj 250*2/ (7)
-
- pulmin........ I can not disassemble
- tlotard (tlotird)???
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Aritmolog
11.11.2004, 13:34
Mycoplasma, uraeplazmu Palinum will not take, and ciprofloxacin too.
At here deliberate not purpose or appointment of antibiotics is not well. Palinum - an antimicrobic preparation (you did not know?), i.e. something to you all have appointed or nominated. All the same at your sufferings are necessary makrolidy, respiratories ftorhinolony and the doxycycline, and a course should be not less than 21 days!!!!!!!!!
And to be treated it is necessary simultaneously with the husband!

About the daddy:
Ciprofloxacin (tsiprobaj) 250 mg h 2 times - is not enough...

Leaf fall
11.11.2004, 18:44
I feel worse...
Today came the doctor from regional a floor. (has caused or called only for its or her sick-list), speaks all lungs in rhonchuses... Type urgently drink sumamed... Also make a computer. tomogr lungs.
Has again put in pawn ears and presses, the kidney hurts... If the next hospitalization, where though to lay down in pulmonology or urology?
If will put an inflammation of lungs, I am afraid will especially not understand with my infection (a mycoplasma and a ureaplasma) - to appoint or nominate honey agarics treatment " a finger in a palate "...

Dr
11.11.2004, 19:24
However the doctor fast has heard booze rhonchuses, has mixed with kokljushem.... Strange, there was a tussis, he has listened and HAS put kokljush since rhonchuses were not... Well there would be an obstruction, its or her and the nurse will hear... hm.

I have not understood, the daddy is strongly sick? A sputum at it or him be healthy, psevdomonas so simply to not expel: (. Namely to expel it is necessary how Alexander Ivanovich wrote. To Him tseftazidim and flukonazol, on good that. It is interesting to know its or his status and the diagnosis (it is not necessary to be guided by our treatment, i.e. without consultation of those who sees).

WHAT RHONCHUSES were listened by yours vrachiha??? Dry svisijashchie, wet??? To you hardly to breathe or not? Tussis, a dyspnea or short wind? All lungs in rhonchuses - is more similar not to a pneumonia, and to the next attack and is similar on asmu. BESIDES your treatment I would buy berodual, it or him inhale at an attack...

Be surveyed, make spirografiju and assay with Salbutamolum!!!

Blood hand over, the general or common and biochemistry!

So, I only have woken up, I shall think and more I shall add