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Lika888
23.10.2006, 13:52
One and a half year ago I have married, before vstrechalast with this guy of half-year.. And all anything, yes here only the husband wash me DOES NOT SEE in an emphasis as the woman! And it has begun through a floor of year after wedding! He as-as if does not hear my hints, does not see my behaviour... I do not know that to me to do or make and how to turn it or him vnimaenie on me! Well good he on me would marry if it or he would be forced with circumstances so in fact is not present-he on it or this insisted on sobstveenoj to will!!! And fairly I admit, the girl I very much even anything, all at me both a figure, and mind or wit, and a nice attractive face... But all this to me already for a long time in pleasure.... Than he is engaged during free time from job (that is all the evening long and practically all the night long)??? Plays... Plays one toy on a computer...
Last time I is constant on it or him I shout (understand, that can be worse than the unsatisfied woman unless nuclear war =)))), he from it or this is irritated! I tried or tasted with it or him and frankly to speak! Spoke, that I do not have not enough simple elementary sex even once a week... And in fact if such happens, more often than once a month! Does not understand... Speaks, that sex in attitudes or relations not the main thing! As a whole certainly to me he concerns warmly, but vsetaki practically all time sits and itraet in the same toy...
Took the initiative, but on them (on arms or hand and received) or simply is not present in the answer.
I like this person and I do not wish to leave it or him, but all remained life to live without sex or with its or his minimal presence, I am not ready yet! To me 21 year, to the husband 28... The problem Can in it or this?

baryshnia
23.10.2006, 15:55
Or at it or him serious psychological/medical problems. Or forgive or excuse, at it or him another... A current do not shout at it or him will be worse. And on other subjects he normally communicates? Or too " not trozh "? If we shall tell or say you it or him at cinema or on a visit you will call... Will go?

Lika888
23.10.2006, 16:24
And at job at it or him I all know also me everyone know, we there and have met! He on all subjects razgovarivat and about sex too, nopostojanno at it or him the different reasons to give up in it or this it is tired its or his my parents have offended I something has touched it or him... Thus he embraces me, itself! But that it is more! At it or him is not present ZPPP, we went together to the doctor... But bad zrektsija... Spoke me, that up to me it or he had very rough sex life and now he of type is tired (though I doubt, even in the beginning of our attitudes or relations of rough sex was not, so 2-3 times a week on 15 munut)... Also speaks, that if we shall be engaged with it or him often in sex we can bother each other.. Think such can be the truth?

baryshnia
23.10.2006, 16:44
It or Her, it is excuses or helps... If normal sex anybody nobody bothers. About a stormy life, says lies most likely. Look or see in a computer where he an Internet goes. Well simply references... "Stormy life" can at it or him there. I here admitted, that at job pornuhu looks, and then in a toilet.... With itself. And he can has understood, what he for 15 minutes does not satisfy you and is afraid now? You want be dared or laugh, you want crying, and at me a problem return. The husband demands me on three times a day, basically in a mouth. Rows! You speak me do not like! Anything I shall tell or say to you not better.

Lika888
23.10.2006, 17:41
Few times saw a site sisi.ru at it or him in a computer, it parnushka... But like he very much takes a great interest or is fond in it or this, though rukoprikladstvom to itself liked was engaged earlier and did not hide it or this...
I do not know, that it is better, that is worse... At me such was not to compare... I do not know how to change sitatsiju... It is intolerable heavy..:confused:

baryshnia
23.10.2006, 18:31
You " sex in the big city " looked? You remember there there was such chicken-feed? Well that is the man with itself can and with pleasure, and with the woman in any way. I do not know as with it or this to struggle... Can joint mastrubatsiej? Simply it seems to me, that if it or he basically did not have a need or requirement (speak such happens, that the man wants once a month) that he to you about "stormy life" would not tell... The need or requirement for sex means is? And if is, where he puts it or her? Can ask by the way to you it or him more in detail on a subject of its or his "stormy life". Well to pretend to be, that a pier too nothing is necessary to me. Simply interestingly... You look he about the imaginations will tell.

Lika888
23.10.2006, 18:43
I spoke with it or him already time frankly, tried with it or him probavat something new, for any period of time all was adjusted, I saw, that he tried, tried even to do or make successively some approaches =), and then all again in a miss... And 2 months even namaka is not present on sex...
I speak him, that I do not demand something improbable, simply I wish to normalize ours with it or him a sex life so that even once a week happened... And he as- does not understand my words, tears, hysterics... And constantly asks, and what is it at you today such mood bad?... Really so it is complex or difficult to understand....: (

baryshnia
23.10.2006, 19:00
It is interesting, that our doctor will tell or say... Something he zapropal. And can together pornuhi look or see? A current there where girls with siskami, instead of muzhiks with voot such penises (and that zakompleksuet). And to get drunk with it or him together did not try or taste? All the same removes or takes out brakes..

The doctor the sexologist
23.10.2006, 20:34
Hello Lika888

That you tried to talk to it or him, it is very correct. Perhaps, only it was necessary to tell or say, what not sex does not suffice, and that carries sex contact, namely tenderness, intimacy, love, etc.
To speak why your spouse so will enter all this in what will not result or bring is possible very longly, but. Try to talk to it or him independently that he even has approximately described the theory as, sex not main, is mere words, in fact a computer game it too not the main thing, and she is in its or his life. Or having resorted to the help of psychologists, and in the further and the sexologist.

Specify still as as occurs or happens during sex, that for such problems with an erection that means, there was a stormy life with whom she was earlier. It would be desirable more for the nobility about that.

Lika888
25.10.2006, 13:11
It or He simply really does not have need or requirement for sex! Very seldom at it or him it is simple so there will be an erection, that is without my help (it is simple that very much would be desirable) and if she appears in my opinion she on all of 100 %. That is the member at it or him dense, and softish, that influences already and my sensations...
He spoke me, that till 18 years it or he did not have girls, and then how to be spoken has seized, was much, whether hardly every day different... I do not know why, but it seems to me, that he says lies! Certainly it or he had girls, but in such quantity or amount, differently he in perfection would know as to satisfy the woman where to her it is pleasant also to what zones in sex it is necessary to pay especial attention... He certainly a full valenok, does or makes something, something even is quite good, but for example, about that what for a clitoris to the woman and that he too somehow can participate during he somehow similar at all does not understand, though I spoke him about it or this!
He speaks, that sex-it or -this;-thus simply sex, and spiritual attitudes or relations are much more important! Delirates that to buy or purchase the second computer and that we together with it or him played this game.. Well here is how up to it or him to inform, what it is important to me to be with it or him close (to be engaged in love, and simple how he speaks, sex)??? I do not know...: (
Sex when he happens, borrows or occupies minutes 5-10, toest it is a little priljudii, then simply sexual certificate or act and all.. Sometimes it or this suffices to take pleasure, but it is not enough more often... And suzhestvut and other picture if he will drink can be engaged in hours sex and cannot terminate at all... It why? It seems to Me is abnormal...
Tried to be engaged also in oral sex, sometimes it helps or assists to get or start it or him... But vplane duvushki he besides does not know or badly knows as well as what to do or make, that to the woman was prijano... I it or him learned or taught under myself, and he me... I have understood what exactly to him it is necessary, and he and has not understood... And vrjatli considers or counts as important something to study...

Scholl_Dir
25.10.2006, 22:20
And on the other hand - what for to him sex? And even gentle attitudes or relations? He has transferred or carried the life to a virtual reality - wrote the author, that he in a toy on a computer day plays .
It seems to me, that a problem much seryoznee, than absence/presence of sex.
He only plays?
And on the house to help or assist? To talk? To take a walk together? If he has replaced all this a computer the psychologist relieving of dependence is necessary to him..

Lika888
26.10.2006, 11:58
If to it or him;them to approach and tell or suit and tell;approach and say;suit and say, that it is necessary to help or assist or talk about business about any, and it is simple about nonsense certainly he will come off minutes on 5-10 and will talk or will help or assist (if business absolutely will not wait). Well and to take a walk it is problematic vprintsipe... When I to its or his call simply to take a walk he asks " Where we shall go?? ", I speak we "shall simply take a walk", and he simply to walk does not like... He at once should buy or purchase or beer or somewhere to come, type kafeshki... Edinstveenoe where he is always glad to go and forget about the -it posidelka with friends (simply pjanka)...
And in general he does or makes only that he wants... The Egoist simply big...

baryshnia
27.10.2006, 11:15
I have lived six years with the first husband (has married in 18 years!) which could drink only with friends, sit at the TV... Neither trips, nor walks, the melancholy was terrible. Has left with booolshim work. And when he began to drink that simply and has ceased to work. Now I regret, that suffered or bore so longly. Problems with sex at it or him the truth was not... But here all rest... Someone clever has told or said, that at people for a joint life three things should coincide: views on sex, on money and for carrying out of a free time. And if they miss essentially there is nothing to excruciate each other. To you in fact lika as I understand not " for 35 " and the heap of children at you is not present. You think, what in general you with your husband connects or binds? You can this love to yourself have thought up? You are real without emotions look or see at it or him, talk easy, ask about plans for a life. Not " you all life before a computer will sit?!!! ", And it is simple.. What it is interesting to you? Then solve how to be. And to suffer or bear to longly us to women it is harmful! We from it or this lose sexuality, appeal and we get vile character.

Lika888
27.10.2006, 12:20
Yes anything me with it or him does not connect or bind... And I to myself most likely have decided love because to like the person nadovse taki intelligently, seeing its or his obvious pluss... And I like... Simply I like.. I do not know for what it or him in general to like that it is possible... I for it or him have left when to me 19 was, in half a year have seriously reflected on divorce. There were we in happiness couple of months, kinks have then begun with its or his party or side... And sex became the big rarity and the attention was gone both flowers and gifts... Has met the guy which there was its or his full contrast, plus to all improbably rich! There was also an attention both all that want also I saw, that to him is not indifferent, but to the husband to change and could not, to me all but it or him were opposite... I do not know that to me to do or make in this situation... Of divorce thought also to him spoke any time! He speaks, that divorce does not wish also it or him to give me is not going to...

baryshnia
27.10.2006, 13:59
I am possible still poumnichaju as skilled or experienced? Like always " for what ", if for something (for money, glory, gifts) it any more love. If you do not want the person, even with gifts - it is necessary to do or make that never it or this, will feel a full silly woman! If you would fall in love, would change negljadja.. And about that he will not give divorce, in general delirium!! We not in the Stone Age and to be married you will force nobody. What means will not give? On which to you its or his consent? You go to yourself to a registry office, you write the application or statement and all.. To you there will tell as as. Worse if property the general or common is, or there a registration the general or common. Then to lawyers it is better to descend or go. You only before to agitate this business, think well, to it or him talk. All can all the same not is remediless?

Lika888
27.10.2006, 14:22
He very hazardous person, the fan or amateur vskih there games, a casino... Now like began to go and that after I skzala less, that if I learn or I find out, that he goes, I shall write the application or statement on divorce... Now, if he wishes to go, asks my sanction, and will be imeeno as I shall tell or say... I am afraid, that if we shall miss, he absolutely will wallow in the game and a casino, will go mad and will ring out in psihushchku or togoo is worse sopetsja... He to me once has directly told or said-if you me will throw or suddenly will achieve greater position and influence in a life, I sopjus... Certainly should be liked and appreciated too, probably therefore I and am set now by these questions... And if fairly I think, that already my husband requires medical assistance, and I more... Only here more likely psihiatora =)
Never thought, that so I shall live.. And I do not understand limitation of interests of the husband... I do not understand as it is possible to exchange affinity with the wife (as he speaks " the liked wife ") on game (and it is not important what-casino or a computer), I all the same do not understand... Probably it is possible to explain it only to that he appreciates the interests much more than interests of the liked person... And how here to be? To cross through itself both to suffer or bear or throw all and to go on searches of the best? I do not know... Tembolee, that I like this person and he likes me, certainly as I like it or him, as that to the and expression of love at it or him other, but I see, that he likes me...
If has solved a question with our affinity (sex), I am assured, that have ceased to perceive its or his addictings so is critical.. But how to inform up to the husband, what to me it is important?... He cannot understand it or this...

baryshnia
27.10.2006, 16:53
To solve certainly to you. While you are ready to suffer or bear its or his "strangenesses" for the sake of your love, you probably can be together. Has put only that people when live together very much against each other wag. They should reckon with interests each other. You are ready to refuse career (money, a recognition, interesting job) to not injure the husband? You can limit the interests neighbour's pjankami and a sit-round gathering at a computer? And applications or statements of type " I sopjus " in general blackmail and to tell the truth lies. My first husband, already on itself was threatened to impose arms or hand, if I shall leave! Anything, drinks as saws with friends... Probably it is not necessary to leave anywhere, and to get divorced, if you are not ready to it or this. Divorce it is very serious! In any case! And to be excruciated half a year year is necessary! You only do not lose itself in the sacrifice! Also do not refuse own life and own desires. You - in fact not only " its or his wife ", you still the woman and the person.

Lika888
27.10.2006, 17:00
Therefore I shall find in myself forces to divorce, but it is a serious step and I am simple naprosto I am afraid to regret about it or this... Though vrjatli, but in a life everyone is possible or probable... From career and rising sobstveenoj qualifications, in particular from study, I to refuse certainly I shall not begin and if at me in a life all will develop, and at it or him is not present to blame to him precious time will have only itself from spends in own perfection and training, and behind game... Children already, 28 years all taki... Vrjatli it though somehow in a life will help or assist him...

baryshnia
27.10.2006, 20:31
So to hold! So to you 28?!! I thought to you on 20... Still ahead!! And he simply stayed out late student with complexes. kakae on figs of game in 28 years?! Run to the devil's grandmother, mine to you advice or council! In 28 anybody does not vary any more, and is not corrected! It is remediless on 99 %. Divorce it is very serious!! But on me so the awful extremity or end, than infinite horror is better. Here it is necessary to understand, that you not only will lose it or him, but also all way of life will change. And with someone new will adjust attitudes or relations uneasy, you already have acquired a heap of complexes.. But if strong, spravishsja. As like to speak gynecologists not you the first, not you last.

Lika888
30.10.2006, 10:57
I so like this person... Divorce this last, that I shall make, if it will not turn out to inspire him, that he is wrong and concerns to me as in a thing...
Though I in advance know, that divorce will be, so I cannot live all life... Simply now I am not ready to divorce...
We still have a small circumstance, we now live with my parents, I to us (to me, but documentary make out on my parents) buy now an apartment... The Husband often refers, that all our conflicts because of joint residing with parents.. Speaks as soon as we shall separately live at all of us will be on another... In my opinion eto delirium... He with me here lives, instead of with my parents... And if sits in the whole days at a computer here and there there will be a same picture... He speaks, that all will change... I already that not zaju...
Has the day before yesterday received the next refusal in affinity... The Reason so has not understood... Such sensation, that I as the prostitute, only house when it is necessary to him he to me and if I want nefiga...
I so am tired, it would be desirable to die...

baryshnia
01.11.2006, 16:10
The poor girl! Wait to wish to die.. It zavsegda not late to make!! You will be in time! Mine to you advice or council descend or go to the psychologist. Advice or councils " skilled from a forum " can support or maintain you, but problems will not solve!! And descend or go BEFORE you will move to a new apartment. Something prompts me, that problems from it or this only will be aggravated. Excuse for cynicism, but can so to develop, that in a new apartment he remains, and you through any time will run away back to parents... They by the way know, what at you a problem (not with sex, and in general?). They quite could help or assist to find the psychologist. The psychologist has helped or assisted me very much. I literally for three occurrings have understood, that to me occurs or happens and what to do or make.

Lika888
02.11.2006, 09:42
I just am engaged in search of the good psychologist and the sexopathologist! =)))

Scholl_Dir
02.11.2006, 21:46
To die it is not necessary. But I think, that it is necessary to solve the problem on divorce BEFORE you will start to live separately. Otherwise to you it or him already never to expel udastsja.
You do not like it or him. You only dream: as it will be good, when he . Is time to understand, what is it most the light future will not come or step never.

I as the man can understand why he does not wish to get divorced from you: it will be fast an apartment, separate, not it or him earned. Series always are the aunt whom it is possible poimet and to not pay for it neither money nor time. Except for that this aunt also cleans or removes-prepares-washes-wears products.

And he only on a computer. And to help or assist - it is necessary to persuade .

And that he will do or make, if (God forbid in such situation!) the kid will appear? It will be necessary for you the real help. And not when he will deign to come off a computer, and is constant! I know!
Also what he will do or make? To help or assist? NO! Look at things really! It is good, if he to change to you will not begin! And wine parties with friends precisely will.

Expel it or him yet late! I understand, that it is better to not give advice or councils, but I uvepren, that iy najdesh to myself LIKED! Instead of any computer worm .

Lika888
03.11.2006, 11:33
Today my mum has begun morning approximately with the same words...
I understand all this and I am not afraid, that nikogdo I shall not find =) I am am waited till now by three children or guys and believe, that sometime I all taki shall be with someone from them... But they to me always were simply good, reliable friends, I knew, that I can always rely on them, but the love that was not... And I like the husband, to me why that not hochetsja to tear all right now, and I then will be even more serious it too I understand...
That's it therefore also I wish to descend or go with it or him to the psychologist, and then to the sexopathologist though he very rested person and vrjatli to whom will listen in this life, except for itself...
The result vseravno will be one-divorce... I think, that you can't change him...

Scholl_Dir
04.11.2006, 06:15
Certainly - search for the psychologist. In the extremity-extremities or extremity-ends;end-extremities you will precisely know, that have made EVERYTHING, that could.

Whether love it? Any form of dependence can be simple? What do you receive from these attitudes or relations? They somehow enrich you, help or assist your body height? Similar, that is not present
What for you are necessary to him - clearly! But he what for is necessary to you. Neither mutual aid, nor respect, joint plans - anything.

Or you are simple on a background of its or his inutile life feel more integral? I am necessary to him! And of it or this I am proud! So that-whether?
You kgo satisfy needs or requirements. And he yours is not present. It not love. It is similar to any slavish attachment ..

And more. You are for some reason assured that will be necessary to nobody. But thus you write, that THREE men wait for the whole will not wait while you will leave the . I do not know as it or him to name....

You consider or count, what is unworthy love? Why?

I think, that the psychologist is necessary. To you. To understand, that you have the right to be happy; TO be liked, instead of to earn this love refusing from itself .