kak vy schitate seks po internetu jeto izmena?...

[Mayya]

kak vy schitate seks po internetu jeto izmena?

[Peach]

And an additional question: and sex in a condom is a change?

[Chyra]

Psychologically - yes, physically - is not present. If conscience zamuchaet, means, change.

[kisja]

And sho this or thus such? How it?

[Anton - Peach, Mayya]

If both and entirely in condoms is not present, not change. It already illness or disease!:)) and if it is serious silly to think, that change consists only in immediate contact of genitals. Change begins in a head.

[Anton - Mayya]

Looking that is meant a word "imagination". Whether it know concept washed away or dim, from simple representation without clothes of the girl sitting opposite in the underground up to a masturbation under a pornofilm.:) it is possible to find a heap of attributes of change in this interval without ceremony. As well as to not find.
If you do not have not enough warm words you have enough virualnogo flirtation. Sex here and.

[Anton - Mayya]

Leaves, you does not suffice not only warm words. Deal with better this problem. Why real men do not raise or excite, and raise or excite only virtual?

[Mayya]

I posle togo kak menja nemnozhko razogreli prishla zhe ja k muzhu.

[Anton]

In bed another is necessary to you the man. And if for you the intim is very important, then and in a life too. I in a life had a similar woman who has left from the husband after night with me, having understood what to live so cannot further. In marriage she has left early, the husband was at it or her the first, I am the second a man. Living with the husband, she considered or counted herself insensible and did not know, that sex can give pleasure. This reason of leaving or care was the truth not unique, but the basic.

[Anton]

You have probably hurried with a marriage. But this conclusion certainly does not solve a problem. If you do not wish to leave and cannot be solved on change, nothing remains to you how to solve this problem together with the husband. pogovoite with it or him. Study to like at it or him if he likes you. Simply eventually, formally, learn or find out that from you is necessary to him both make it. Also try to take pleasure that have made pleasant to the person who liking you and has presented you of two children.

[Anton]

This concept is many-sided. And for me including. Well we shall tell or say so, you like is when you live simultaneously the life and a life of the liked person. I do not know, whether you have understood me. I hope what yes.
" The love to the husband is sex " - to me such even in a head did not come never.

[Anton]

It concerns or touches everything, including sex.
Sex in love attitudes or relations: reception of pleasure occurs or happens from contact with liked, from that sensation, that you plunge into this sacrament with liked, instead of in general with whom that you give liked pleasure instead of to that that still, and for this purpose you should feel, hear, live it or him it or him. At you, as well as at the husband, probably other perception of sex. Then it is complex or difficult to me to tell or say, that such virtual sex for you and the husband, therefore about existence in it or this changes to judge to me difficultly. In your case. For me it is change.

[Anton]

I not about the wife wrote it!:)) sex really not love, and only its or her part. The love is harmony of many components. In this case one of the most important, sex, has pushed that woman to leave from the husband. But besides I shall repeat, it was not the unique reason, and only the basic.

[Question to Anton]

Your words have reminded my history... And words of the liked person. Tell or say, if you really like the wife as could admit or allow this night with that woman? I had to be on its or her place... And what then feelings tested in relation to her when she has left from the husband?
Whether there were feelings of fault? All of you speak correctly, but you in fact understand, what something in her have broken, having given or allowed something new, and then having pushed away from yourself? Read your records (not only in this subject) and caught itself on an idea, that your course of reasonings is very close to a course of reasonings of That person. Help or assist me to understand, please. Very hardly to understand and leave a status of crisis. The main thing, that here all that you write how understand love, I test to this person. It seems, harmony. But, as it is banal, for it or him, obviously, all this was only on dva-three times. And, as you also have written, " Well you do not like me ", and still that is stronger.... I do not understand, why men go on it? And the main thing that I can not understand: why there is no feeling of the responsibility? It seems to me, when you give the person chastichku yourself (whether in sex, in spiritual dialogue) for it or him become responsible or crucial. Though and it is silly, but " you in the answer for those whom has tamed ". Or, probably, it is already obsolete? Once again I shall emphasize, that you are right as well that it is not necessary to communicate virtually. It is better personally. Why virtual dialogue deforms or distorts something important, true? The Strangeness consists that the feeling strong and does not pass or take place.

[Anton - the Answer to the Question]

Yes, probably such situations happens much enough. Well, I shall respond.
For that moment we with the wife had complex or difficult enough attitudes or relations. To tell or say more correctly, they almost were not in general. At us little bit uneasy history of mutual relations to tell longly, till now we only in a civil marriage. I shall tell or say only, during those periods when we with the wife were together, I to her did not change never, as however and to all women. As if to that woman who after our night has left from the husband for it or her our occurring began only an occasion to begin other life. The reasons were saved during many years of a joint life with the husband. Feelings of fault at me are not present, in fact I have made the person chutochku more happily, well or have helped or assisted to follow that way which will probably make its or her such in the future. Sometimes the way fortunately happens also such. It is necessary to note here, that she left not to me, and from the husband, we did not discuss an opportunity of our long serious attitudes or relations as she only only with one rather burdensome for herself has finished. Now as to the responsibility. It seems to me that between situations in which it is necessary to consider or examine;survey presence otvestvennosti and it is not necessary to consider or examine;survey very thin side. Not always intimate relations it is whose that the responsibility before whom that. All depends that predshestovalo to these transient or fulminating attitudes or relations. Plus to all it in fact the same finished attitudes or relations as well as all the others. And finishing or stopping attitudes or relations, we do not save the responsibility for when that of people close to us in current of all life. Though certainly giving chastichku myself and taking away same to myself I to all women save the warm attitude or relation. But sometimes in a life it is necessary to leave. And not always parting - the inferior output or exit from a situation. Besides I am not responsible for behaviour of other men, I speak only about myself. And virtual dialogue limits transfer of the information only to words in written form. The person has more thin and complex or difficult device, he passes and accepts the information on several various channels. Therefore the picture as a result of virtual dialogue turns out strongly deformed or distorted. I am sorry for such explanation, but on education the technician, a system analyst.:) I Hope, I have answered your questions, let is a little bit chaotic.

[From the Question (She for flours or torments has]

It is good, that you have explained, who you on a speciality. To me hardly to understand this subject - the responsibility, as before the man (which something so on style of speech reminds you, and more likely, on any human thoughtfulness, whether that) with anybody was not necessary to leave. It was naive. And all other. Painfully it has struck. If here now, knowing, than all this zakochitsja to return to the beginning of history - I think, that would not know about a life of that has learned or has found out is better, would not open sex and all another is better, but the belief in the person would not be killed. The image forks. On the one hand - and knowing, that is not necessary, after predatelstv and pains - all the same I like. And with another - to comprehend or conceive - I can not.
It is possible then to ask one more: simply it was not possible at anybody. Why the man will leave one woman and searches for another? When comes (and why) this situation ischerpannosti?, what in each person estb the highlight always seemed to Me, glavno it or her to see? If has pulled to the person (I think, that is primary, in an ideal here virtual dialogue - style more approaches or suits, the manner to state much speak), and has then proved to be true in a reality - here she, izjumina. What? Or, when then will leave, something means zastilo a view, not at once has understood ("was fascinated"). What is it not your person? Always excited a question, how the man can easy conduct itself (and the woman), meeting in the street, for example, the former intimal partner when he (she) already another's? It seems to me, all time the event has the status constant. How in general attitudes or relations can interrupt? Any, not only in love and sex. Then to not begin better. Exceptions (that I can understand) departure of the person at the certain stage of a life kuda-that far and the termination or discontinuance of dialogue for the objective reasons. Probably, silly to live till thirty years, never having torn with anybody of attitudes or relations? (no, there was once, but it on job; and here with the husband - even with the husband I can not tear, but it because from the very beginning there were simply friendly attitudes or relations, and now all has returned into place - after destruction of family). If to you " not in a breakage " (excuse for roughness) explain. It is important to talk to the person who about it or this, probably, thought and to understand other point of view.

[Anton]

All the questions put by you have no general or common answers. Answers to them can be given only kasaemo concrete vital situations, people, their ideas and acts. For all occasions instructions to think up it is impossible. Too many conditions put to us a life. And each person finds answers to these questions for itself. If answers of two people coincide that they together if is not present, as in your case, happens not clearly why he responds to them on another. In it or this there is nothing surprising, all people different, and answers to these questions at them too can be different. But in any case negative experience of attitudes or relations should not lead you to denying of an opportunity of adjustment of good relations in general. He only allows to analyse a situation and to draw conclusions which in the future will allow you to avoid similar problems. Unfortunately, in more detail to respond it is not obviously possible is a subject for heart-to-heart talk for all night!:))

[Maje and to Anton]

No, here "virtual" there is no Internet. In this case it is jobs of That person (written). Then - an internal occurring. Then all pereroslo in the help to him (the device on job) and actually in something similar to "novel". Not I have begun. I think, how he it vse-taki did not consider or examine;survey the novel. More likely - as one more type of dialogue (for short time). And in very regular correspondence. Strange, what exactly correspondence all has ruined. It was necessary to communicate personally.