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Svetlana_S
27.05.2003, 15:37
At the child the chair in any way - once in two days, dense, sheep cannot be normalized. What it is possible to undertake? Bifidopreparaty do not give effect (accepted month successively)

tvk
28.05.2003, 07:42
Dear Svetlana.
The reasons of constipations at children can be various. You are assured, that at your child disbioz.
For the beginning it is necessary to survey the child. To make crop of a feces on disbioz an intestine, US gepatobiliarnoj systems. And then already to speak about treatment.
Yours faithfully T.V.Kobets

hel
13.06.2003, 08:49
We had a similar situation till 10 months - have not helped or assisted bifidopreparaty, and all somehow by itself was adjusted. There is, certainly, sometimes a constipation a-peas, but all the same kakaet itself (and that in fact earlier only to a clyster) and more often every day, than in day. Yes! The dysbacteriosis at us was absent.
Hel.

tvk
13.06.2003, 23:09
Dear Hel
Really completely not necessarily reason of a constipation - disbioz an intestine. As the reason anomaly of an intestine, a unbalanced delivery can serve and at times it is enough to enter to the child we shall tell or say beet or plam juice and it leads to normalization of a chair. But in any case the reason is necessary for finding out. And to wait while a chair at the child it is normalized independently does not follow.
Yours faithfully T.V.Kobets

_
20.06.2003, 16:57
The dear Doctor,

My question concerns or touches treatments of my child. Please,
Tell or Say the opinion/reference on the given question

Mothers of 28 years, the first pregnancy and labors. To the child of 7,5 months. Development and
Weight in norm or rate. 6 teeth. At survey of deviations or rejections it is not revealed.
The stomach or belly of the usual form, soft, is accessible deep palvatsii,
Painless.

Delivery smeshanoe, under the schedule. Thoracal milk, vegetable soup,
Fruit mashed potatoes, juices with a pulp, yogurt. Prikorm have begun
To enter from 4,5 months.

Indications - chronic constipations since 6 months.

The diagnosis - dizbakterioz 1 items To 6- to months
Some problems have ceased to disturb (regurgitations,
The abdominal distention, bad dream), but have arisen chronic
Constipations. The child makes an effort to a pain and cracks. But a chair
Is absent more than 2-3 day, it is necessary to help or assist a clyster.

Investigated or Researched milk of mother on flora - in norm or rate.

In the analysis on dizbakterioz in 6- months it is shown:
- uslovnopatogennaja the flora is overestimated from norm or rate (a staphilococcus for the order),
- laktobakterii on the order below.

Results of the analysis on dizbakterioz in 7 months:
Pathogenic microflora it is not revealed
bifidobaktrii 10 (8) - norm or rate 10 (9) up to 10 (11)
laktobakterii 10 (5) - norm or rate 10 (5) up to 10 (7)
Enterococci 10 (7) - norm or rate 10 (5) up to 10 (6)
kish. A rod with normal farms. The certificate or act. 10 (5)-norm 10 (7) 10
(8)
Staphilococcuses 10 (5) - norm or rate 10 (4)
Others uslovnopat. Bacteria enterobakterii 10 (6)-norm 10
(5)
Yeast-like 10 (4)-norm 10 (4)
Lactic streptococcuses 10 (7)-10 (6) up to 10 (7)

Conclusion of the doctor: it is considerably lowered kolich. Normal intestinal
Rods. Are found out uslovnopatogennye bacteria
enterobakter 10 (6) in 1. A feces. It is lowered kolich. bifidoflory.
The analysis koprograma: slime is a little, leucocytes 3-5 (that vobshche
Should not be).
We were treated: 6 weeks Pancreatinum 1 in day (14.)
2. + 1. Enterogel (5.) and Hilak (on
Instructions)
3. + 1. Pancreatinum 1 in day (14)
4. Enterogel (5) Hilak (14) Limfomiazot.
4. + 2. Yoghurt (10)
5. Dufalak (14)
6+2 Macrofoams (5) Nistatinum (7)
6+3 the Bacteriophage-staphylococcal (300 ml) and
Limfomiazot
7+2 Normaze also we plan to connect
Bacteriemic or Bacterial preparation Simbiter.

From conversations with the doctor we know, that there are 2 variants of treatment:

1. To adjust uslovnopatogennuju a microflora (we did or made it
By means of antibiotics - the result was not,
Even good bacteria have decreased,
stafilokok hardly to treat, and there is an opinion it or him to not touch or not tamper with).

2. To adjust a good microflora - bifidobakterii
And laktobakterii (too installed bacteria c help Hilak,
Yoghurt long time without special results)

What to do or make with the child, indications on a dolichosigma except for
Constipations are not present. How to adjust flora and an independent chair. With
It is not connected by psychological problems, the child
Makes an effort. When we allow a medicine to become like better with a chair,
But only we stop - the status comes back, and now vobshche to live with
Constipations it is impossible. What analyses to make, change a delivery (though and
So thoracal).

Speak, that it is possible to wait while the child will go on foot,
But its or her flora itself not vostanavlivaetsja.

Help or Assist advice or council, please.
In advance many thanks.

tvk
23.06.2003, 07:48
Dear Irina.
Your kid received such abundance bakpreparatov and from menenija at it or him in a chair are so insignificant, that, in my opinion, he can be given now only dufulak during 2-3
Weeks before normalization of a chair. As he it is very good
Normalizes perestaltiku an intestine, it is effective at constipations.
Yours faithfully T.V.Kobets