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ledyloriel
01.09.2004, 19:30
Jury!

Comment on given clause or article:

http: // www.narcom.ru/cabinet/online/21.html



It as?

Yours faithfully, Vitaly.

join
01.09.2004, 19:30
Yours faithfully,

Katik
01.09.2004, 19:30
Dear Vitaly, on your question *quot; it as? *quot; I can respond only: *quot; it ?*quot;; *quot;

My view on this disgrace basically to you is known, but time you ask comments, I shall try or taste... At reading these comments I ask to consider, that I not the expert or auditeur in a psychosurgery, but I the NEUROSURGEON (which has made stereotaxic operations much more prof. Lutsika and something in it or this I understand).

1) Practice of the civilized world:

- Use of a psychosurgery for treatment of mental diseases is shown only in :1.) obsessive compulsive disorder and 2.) major affective disorder (ie. major depression or bipolar disorder).

- Presence of a narcomania and an alcoholism is in all cases contraindication to a psychosurgery. For example at of some patients with OCD after a psychosurgery occurrences of different kinds of dependence were marked or celebrated

- Indications to operation are exposed *quot; ??Nu?a?y?*quot;, but the psychiatric conclusion primarily

If it is interesting, it is possible to esteem on site Garvada: http: // neurosurgery.mgh.harvard.edu/psysurg.htm



2) In my opinion a problem not neurosurgical, but psychiatric. As it is fairly noticed in your link, neurosurgical technologies for the present or true moment allow to make a destruction to within 1-2 mm in any point of a brain. The basic problem are indications-where and what to do or make???

3) it is very a pity, that at this joint session psychiatrists have not told or said *quot; ia?*quot; to these techniques.

4) About that that *quot; 2-nd congress NH of Russia this business niO??*quot; - so you about congress too know my impression (I by the way there were and did not approve;))

5) the Link to Plenum of the All-Union society of psychiatrists and experts in narcology of 1985 involuntarily causes a curve smile. It all the same, that now in court the public prosecutor will start to quote Vyshinskogo.



My general or common conclusion on a problem: *quot; our society is not in that phase of development when it is possible to resolve psihohirurgicheskie operations. Also has put here not in neurosurgery. The neurosurgery is a method. A question in *quot; political o?N*quot; *quot;



That me pleases from all this clause or article (and I think, that prof. Lutsika too, but in other occasion;)), so it *quot; to limit primenenenie a method...... Clinic Novokuznetsk aeaoea*quot;



Yours faithfully,

PS the rating of the Academic council of Ministry of Health of the Russian Federation has fallen below indecent

invi
01.09.2004, 19:30
Is sad to observe SUCH from approval of colleagues. The society realizes the sotsiofobicheskie tendencies in all possible or probable ways. Officials are ready to put neurosurgery as a barrier to in what their fault not the latest.



Question, where also what they there destruktirujut (???) too as that excites me. I suspect, that results are so pitiable, that will not publish them. Here persistently searched such data and has not found. If who that has the similar information - share.



As selection of patients with "experience" narkotizatsii no more than 2-3 years is not clear?

If the technique is so universal why to not undertake the most serious where experiences of 15-20 years? The person with the experience in 2-3-years and without kalechashchih operations in a status to return by a normal life. This fact + absence of official statistics makes impression about these "experts" as about . (insert any abusive word) and all looks or appears frankly trite.



Thanks Vam Jury for emotional, and during too time highly professional comments.



Yours faithfully, Vitaly.