Irchik
04.10.2004, 07:03
Such subject: and how recheck qualitative PTSR if he, God forbid, at the first statement gives "+"? Whether Is at somebody such infa? Only, pliz, infa, instead of assumptions.
I spoke with the doctor from Moscow cabinet or study "antivich", that on Sokolinke. She has told or said, that in this case PTSR is put (on the same blood) once again, and, if necessary, is put blot.
But here there are some questions on which she has not given the precise answer. It and is clear, she all the same the adviser, instead of the laboratory assistant.
And so, questions such:
1. How estimate or appreciate end result PTSR if he for the first time gives "+", but at rearrangement "-"?
The second. And whether we shall apply in general at check PTSR immunoblot? In fact PTSR hand over basically on early terms, from 10 days. Well, in laboratories usually ask to hand over not in 10 days, and somewhere from 2 weeks. But all the same, for blota in fact still early? Whether there Will be he on term of 2-3 weeks even doubtful?
And the third. For the standard ?oa-ANALYSIS there is the general or common for all medical institutions the instruction how to operate or work in case of a positive take. And whether there is such instruction for PTSR? Or PTSR check everywhere in own way how who considers or counts correct?
I shall explain, why I am or be interested in all it or this. On term of 38 days from contact has handed over PTSR in Petersburg AIDS-center on Bypass. There speak so: the analysis is done or made 10 days, but, maybe, will be ready and earlier. To me have told or said about 10 days, but have suggested to learn or find out just in case days through 5. And so, in 5 days I ask - is not present, it is not ready.
- And when PTSR gave last time?
- Well, today gave.
To me at once it became bad. Well, with what stati my analysis have not given or not remote, time PTSR put? In fact longly do or make just because collect, save analyses then to put them together so it or him leaves more cheaply.
Some days of nervous expectation - and, about a miracle! - a minus! And without any mentions that something was doubtful that it is necessary to be rechecked, etc. the Information or Inquiry, in black and white: " PTSR DNA of a HIV - it is not revealed ".
It would seem, on logic, well they should not, having received "+" on PTSR and, at pereproverke it or him blotom, having received a minus to give out such information or inquiry. In fact in that case DNA are just found out, and blot has shown only absence of antibodies to specific fibers of a HIV that could be caused or called early by for or term.
Though, on the other hand, in our country in fact all is possible or probable. If to assume, that official instructions from Ministry of Health are not present, in labs can purely or cleanly mehanisticheski, thoughtlessly transfer or carry a habitual technique pereproverki IFA immunoblotom on PTSR.
More shortly if is at somebody authentic infa in this occasion - share, pliz!
And last voprosik. If to admit or allow, that rechecked metom immunoblota. Like this method it is considered sensitive, and term at me was not so such and small - 38 days. On this term blot can be absolutely pure or clean? Or nevertheless, in case of presence of a virus, he will be already even doubtful?
I spoke with the doctor from Moscow cabinet or study "antivich", that on Sokolinke. She has told or said, that in this case PTSR is put (on the same blood) once again, and, if necessary, is put blot.
But here there are some questions on which she has not given the precise answer. It and is clear, she all the same the adviser, instead of the laboratory assistant.
And so, questions such:
1. How estimate or appreciate end result PTSR if he for the first time gives "+", but at rearrangement "-"?
The second. And whether we shall apply in general at check PTSR immunoblot? In fact PTSR hand over basically on early terms, from 10 days. Well, in laboratories usually ask to hand over not in 10 days, and somewhere from 2 weeks. But all the same, for blota in fact still early? Whether there Will be he on term of 2-3 weeks even doubtful?
And the third. For the standard ?oa-ANALYSIS there is the general or common for all medical institutions the instruction how to operate or work in case of a positive take. And whether there is such instruction for PTSR? Or PTSR check everywhere in own way how who considers or counts correct?
I shall explain, why I am or be interested in all it or this. On term of 38 days from contact has handed over PTSR in Petersburg AIDS-center on Bypass. There speak so: the analysis is done or made 10 days, but, maybe, will be ready and earlier. To me have told or said about 10 days, but have suggested to learn or find out just in case days through 5. And so, in 5 days I ask - is not present, it is not ready.
- And when PTSR gave last time?
- Well, today gave.
To me at once it became bad. Well, with what stati my analysis have not given or not remote, time PTSR put? In fact longly do or make just because collect, save analyses then to put them together so it or him leaves more cheaply.
Some days of nervous expectation - and, about a miracle! - a minus! And without any mentions that something was doubtful that it is necessary to be rechecked, etc. the Information or Inquiry, in black and white: " PTSR DNA of a HIV - it is not revealed ".
It would seem, on logic, well they should not, having received "+" on PTSR and, at pereproverke it or him blotom, having received a minus to give out such information or inquiry. In fact in that case DNA are just found out, and blot has shown only absence of antibodies to specific fibers of a HIV that could be caused or called early by for or term.
Though, on the other hand, in our country in fact all is possible or probable. If to assume, that official instructions from Ministry of Health are not present, in labs can purely or cleanly mehanisticheski, thoughtlessly transfer or carry a habitual technique pereproverki IFA immunoblotom on PTSR.
More shortly if is at somebody authentic infa in this occasion - share, pliz!
And last voprosik. If to admit or allow, that rechecked metom immunoblota. Like this method it is considered sensitive, and term at me was not so such and small - 38 days. On this term blot can be absolutely pure or clean? Or nevertheless, in case of presence of a virus, he will be already even doubtful?