Positive

[shultsoks]

Tell or Say, and whether washes to be such. At one partner of a HIV +, and at the second VICH-. Attitudes or relations constants in current of 5 years. Or it is a mistake or an error? Handed over IFA positive, blot it is positive, at the partner 2 times negatively. Sexual contacts only with it or him.

[sss]

All can be.

[morph]

Here and interestingly, if earlier always was VICH-. And here suddenly became a HIV +. There is a question And how the HIV has got in an organism if sexual contacts to other partners were not, narcotics are not accepted.

[efremovp]

There are still other ways of transfer.

[valerija]

There are other theories why immunoblot can be positive and is not connected in any way with a HIV. Is not present in immunobltote some any unique fiber inherent only a HIV. Presence of two-dimensional reactions is possible or probable.

[Uva]

Contact could be for a long time vich not at once is defined or determined

[povku]

Andryukhas, you of that? Not 5 years...))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

[librettta]

Interestingly to check up level CD4!


If immunnoblot +, and level CD4 in norm or rate, here it would be already interesting!

[Innochka]

Not important. At a -infection and in some years there is a status decent enough. And up to 1500 reaches.

[Kira]

What else? Hemotransfusions was not, injections after last delivery on a HIV (the analysis negative) were not.

[Adzhika]

Andrew D and what else there can be theories? And PTSR will show exact result?

[Almat]

It is considered, that immunoblot and IFA react to antibodies. There can be two-dimensional reactions on IFA with other antibodies. (Officially, false positive IFA can be at a recent inoculation from a flu, pregnancy, a tuberculosis, an allergy and more about 30 illnesses or diseases and the statuses registered in various researches)





Positive IFA confirm immunoblotom. At blote it is considered, that time is checked on some antibodies at once, means we shall precisely find antibodies to a HIV. But first, at 20-30 % of people with IFA "-" registriruruetsja not less than one strip on immunoblote. Secondly, among these strips there is no, inherent exclusively a HIV (differently only on this fiber and prverjali). Further, the official medicine considers or counts, that it is better to diagnose a HIV "+", than to understand with what it is connected.





Accuracy PTSR-of a method for today + /-300 % at the best. For diagnostics of a HIV it or him do not use. But another is not present. He is applied at purpose or appointment of therapy and at an estimation of its or his efficiency.





What to do or make in case of, when there is no signs, there is no possible or probable variant of infection, and the diagnosis of a HIV + official medetsina searches for others possible or probable istochnniki. (Visiting of the stomatologist, for example). There is a group of scientists, schtitajushchih, that in this case the diagnosis is a mistake or an error. IMHO, such diagnoses have lifted for 10 years average term of development of AIDS at a HIV of an infection without treatment from 3-5 years till 5-10, and also have led to occurrence "nonprogressorov" at which for 15 years of a HIV + there are no changes in a state of health

[Pritchin]

" Accuracy PTSR-of a method for today + /-300 % at the best. "





It is what PTSR? Qualitative, quantitative? With such accuracy he would be senseless.





" Secondly, among these strips there is no, inherent exclusively a HIV (differently only on this fiber and prverjali). "





Check on all virus fibers as the HIV not from the unique fibers consists.


Any "differently" here are conjectures not having anything the general or common with dejstvtelnostju.


But I understand you. At, for example, positive blote (instead of with 2--3- strias), is much easier (and it is more favourable) to assume, that in an organism there is such quantity or amount of other infections, that at each of them, giving on one-two strias krossreaktsii in blote on a HIV, as a whole all blot becomes positive, than to assume, that in an organism there is a unique HIV and to accept the diagnosis.

[Markiza]

The analysis on a HIV did or made at pregnancy and in 2 weeks after its or her discontinuing. Whether it could affect or influence result?

[SIFILIS]

Olga


Yes could, pregnancy is one of factors causing false positive result at IFA on a HIV

[11]

Children or Guys, at it or her blot positive.

[larisa-777]

Nastja


Well tady h.z.

[rapman477]

Ol, the stomatologist can, at an abortion..? Think, recollect all. Two my friends at abortion infected in medtsentre.

[CBETA]

The stomatologist did not have a year 1,5-2. Discontinuing did or made already after analyses. I.e. I do not see any sources of infection. During pregnancy strongly hurted or was ill;was sick, tablets have caused or called toxic reaction of an organism, hormones "have gone", week temperature 39. Then why at husband VICH-?

[Oleksiy]

IMHO just after abortion and occurrence of the picture is possible or probable, able to give on immunoblote a positive take. Antibodies to a fetus (all extraneous body in the beginning, for this reason a nausea a vomiting, etc.) + posledsvija struggle against a spectrum of the infections, getting vovnutr. Antibodies on immunoblote record up to ten maximum. nekotrye from them are oligomerami others (p41 and p120/160). A spectrum of the fibers-antigens, developed or produced an organism on one virus of type stafilokoka I do not know, but more than one. In the sum it is quite possible or probable immunoblot "+". I repeat, it IMHO.

[Julia111]

HERE MIRACLES THAT I HAVE REFLECTED WHENCE AT ME A HIV????

[Mashenka]

Olga,


If you want, write a mail.


I shall send pair links to the alternative point of view of the theory of a HIV - AIDS, and also on problems with tests of a HIV.


andriyrv // sobaka // yahoo.com

[Aleksey9]

And he probably congenital! Simply not at all it is shown!!! =)))))) so dear FOBY - to hand over to a thicket!!

[motik]

" The Spectrum of the fibers-antigens, developed or produced an organism on one virus of type stafilokoka I do not know, but more than one. In the sum it is quite possible or probable immunoblot " + "."





1. Fibers-antigens are fibers of the microorganism alien chelovechesomu to an organism. To them the immune system develops or produces antibodies. So you have mixed something...


2. A staphilococcus - NOT a virus!


3. A spectrum of antigens of a staphilococcus I too do not know (especially them full versions and strains), but the unique microorganism, capable to make blot on a HIV completely positive is in any way a staphilococcus or something or something else, it is a HIV. And it is very specific.

[CHeburashka]

****** tablets have caused or called toxic reaction of an organism, hormones "have gone" *****





Olenek,


What you have written and is the answer to your question " from where +? ", if certainly 100 % were not risk.


Two variants: the first - your husband "+", but at a stage serokonversii (that is tsepanul more recently) and infection from it or him.


The second, is yours + (she starts pathogenic mechanisms just at a cellular level of immunity). The similar case has occured or happened in the beginning 90 in Southern region Russian Federation when about hundred kiddies in hospital have put and have confirmed the diagnosis of a HIV. In the further, it was found out, that diagnoses have been put false, just because of predozirovki by medicinal preparations, disturbances in biochemistry of a blood and a cellular part of immunity. The original cause was - an intoxication medicines.


So, for the beginning hand over- biochemistry of a blood and an immunogram. If on them parameters will be within the limits of norm or rate, go hand over repeatedly on HIV IFA, but not there where you handed over first time. On pretest consultation anything about itself do not inform, easier or simply silently to hand over.


If with biochemistry and immunogramoj there will be now a disorder with IFA on a HIV wait.


And more: wait while to listen to theories of dissidents and conformists, to you here them have already presented. In practice there are real reasons of mistakes or errors, and theories and proreading of the information leave on then. Your situation non-standard also demands the further pereproverok.