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Senna
01.09.2004, 19:30
In PTSR the analysis of a saliva has (qualitatively shown presence of viruses of Epstein- and a herpes 6 types. More than any analyses it was not done or made. The doctor has spent external survey and has told or said: *quot; Generally with such analyses you it is possible to lay down on ?N?N??N*quot;



Tell or Say, she can be believed?

gergeor
01.09.2004, 19:30
Epstein- it is possible to allocate from a saliva of many adults who have transferred or carried to a childhood an infectious mononucleosis. In occasion of 6 in a saliva and signs of weariness it is necessary to consult at the neuropathologist.

maniia
01.09.2004, 19:30
Epstein- it is possible to allocate from a saliva of many adults who have transferred or carried to a childhood an infectious mononucleosis. In occasion of 6 in a saliva and signs of weariness it is necessary to consult at the neuropathologist.

All this so, but....

Infection Epstein's virus- - an artful piece. And obviously doctor the appointed or nominated analysis of a saliva on a virus was guided by the certain clinical symptomatology.

For verification of a stage of an infection it is meaningful to make IFA on kopleks antibodies to a virus, it:

VCA IgM, IEA-IgG, NA1-IgG - by results of this analysis it is possible to tell or say, what is this a stage (Pastas-infections, early Pastas-infections, active virus process)

Still do or make reaction paulja-iO??N?n that is rather specific test for a mononucleosis.



P.S.

Kratenko problems which causes VEB

Infectious mononucleosis, limfoma Berkitta, a nasopharyngeal carcinoma, a lymphoepithelioma of a sialaden (thymoma), a hepatitis



And here, that accompanies a virus of herpes of 6-th type

Sudden exanthema of children, mononukleozopodobnyj a syndrome, a syndrome of chronic weariness, an encephalomyelitis, kofaktor developments of a HIV-infection, oral and cervical carcinomas

bazik
01.09.2004, 19:30
Dear Ivkoko and YuriTop!

You could not specify for people present rough percent or interest on the ground which are not, are not latent carriers or bearers EBV, herpes virus 6, how, however, and others gerpesvirusov?



In view of mullions-strong history of "mutual relations" of people and these viruses such carriage not a prerogative of today.

How the mankind has survived?



With what body height last decades all over the world the diseases connected with these viruses, as well as a lot of other intracellular parasites from group, so-called slow infections is connected? (body height of quantity or amount of diseases, instead of improvement of diagnostics). In fact with body height how approved or confirmed the left or abandoned forum the participant, immorality of a society and augmentation in this connection quantities or amounts infected?



P.S. If these questions which are beyond EVM, are poorly interesting to the present or true forum, I ask me to excuse, and I remove or take out them.

Kashnikova Olesya
01.09.2004, 19:30
Last decade diagnostics of these infections, from here and body height became possible or probable

Partizan
01.09.2004, 19:30
Last decade diagnostics of these infections, from here and body height became possible or probable

It agree with it or this, also that viruses (will tell or say more correctly intracellular parasites) borrow or occupy a free niche however matters. The next coil of evolution.

By the way, in spite of the fact that by that or other virus are infected more than 90 % of the population, clinically significant displays of an infection arise no more than at 20-30 %, and can be and less. I ask to not forget, that DNA containing viruses so able to be built in in a gene of a cell and accordingly to be cloned by all this together with her at division.

Epstein- vobshche an interesting virus. Even to that on In-lymphocytes there is a receptor to it or him;them (D-).

The infection Epstein- masks under an angina, a lymphadenitis, a parotitis, a hepatitis, a sialadenitis, a long subfebrile condition (with such diagnoses children whom then put an infectious mononucleosis act).

kleolita
01.09.2004, 19:30
Last decade diagnostics of these infections, from here and body height became possible or probable





Dear Ivan Jurevich!

I expected such answer (forgive or excuse, the formal reply) and have specially emphasized - body height of diseases, instead of improvement of diagnostics. There will be time, glance in given the CART for last twenty years, and in a lot of the jobs devoted to statistical researches. In fact to you on your activity all maps in arms or hand. And then, last decade, diagnostics of that became possible or probable? Genital herpes? Body height of diseases which, with serious relapsing current, is noted, somewhere since 70th years XX of a century or blepharon.

And clinically significant displays of an infection at 20-30 %, dear Jury, for the majority of these or it of " slow infections digit (while?) it is overestimated.

There are various assumptions of such tendency, in particular, as firstly will seem strange (nevertheless speech about viruses, instead of about bacteria) such body height connect or bind with disturbance evoljutsionno the created microbiocenosis at the person on a background all of an increasing or enlarged antibacterial therapy. I shall remind, in system the person - the microbe on 10 in 13 degrees of human cells is necessary up to 10 in 14 - 10 in 15 microbial.

If such assumptions are even partially justified are seriously.

boom
01.09.2004, 19:30
I do not remember who from our coryphaeuses has told or said, that 21 centuries-it or centuries-this;centuries-thus;blepharons-it of blepharons of virus infections. And it is valid, on a background kolosalnogo a choice of germicides, the set of antiviral agents is very poor. Antibiotics appear on neskolku every year, and what the newcomer against viruses, except for FAMVIRA, we in wide using see?

Interferons a-output only partial, cytokines mnogoobeshchajushchi, but in wide application have not appeared.