I have collided or faced with problemmoj.

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At us it is impossible to get or start children. Have addressed to the Doctor.

I have made the analysis of a semen. There was at me of 1 % normakinezisa.

1 % alive *quot means; u?oa?O?o*quot; and 25 % a minimum are necessary

But there were 2 weeks before this continence.

Tomorrow repeated spermogramma. There will be sobljudeny all references of the doctor. (type a bath hot to not accept.)



It would be desirable to learn or find out.

If this analysis remains, what in such cases do or make?

In what ways it is % pordnimajut?

It is possible or probable?



What ways of treatment happen?

I the Programmer also work for komputerom constantly.

How the monitor influences it? There Was an idea to buy or purchase TFT.



I shall be grateful sylkam on clauses or articles which tell about ways of treatment.



Thanks

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Voobshchem repeated analyses have given tezhe results



1 %: (





Vroach has told or said only IKSI....

Chance of 35 %



There is it 2000 $

To me it is dear or expensive. (the salary 300 $) To save is necessary a floor of year. + a duty or debt



What to me to do or make?

[boris]

Uv. Hermitap!



Vroach has told or said only IKSI.... What to me to do or make?



Unfortunately your doctor of the rights. From the experience I can add only the following, that all attempts of conservative treatment of serious disturbances of a spermatogenesis known to me came to an end with additional charges on treatment and return to experts of genesial medicine i.e. IKSI.

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Thanks for the answer.



And why such small % of result?



By the way, the doctor has advised me poprinimat germs of wheat.

It that? And what for?

[boris]

And why such small % of result?



Your doctor has named average digits. On different clinics these results can be various 25 up to 50 %. By the way the probability of offensive or approach of pregnancy in a natural cycle at absolutely healthy married couple does not exceed 30 %.







By the way, the doctor has advised me poprinimat germs of wheat. It that? And what for?



I think this question more pertinently to set to your attending physician.

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I have addressed in one clinic. More dearly or expensively which.

And the reputation is better. To me did not appoint or nominate at once IKSI.

Have appointed or nominated a heap of additional analyses to find out and why such low interest of activity..



Tests have revealed Urevplazmos.. Old and deep..



How much old, nesmogli to tell or say.



Has read through in an Internet that one of display of this sore and there is just a sterility or barrenness.



Here I wish to ask dear B.Kamenetsky



That you think in this occasion..



How much closely it svjazanao with mine problemmoj

Also treatment will be how much effective..





Treatment to me yet have not appointed or nominated. I go on dopolnitenyj the analysis of US of a prostate, and then treatment. + still there is on inspection a wife.

[boris]

Uv. Hermitap!



And the reputation is better. To me did not appoint or nominate at once IKSI. Have appointed or nominated a heap of additional analyses to find out and why such low interest of activity..



If tactics of treatment is already certain and it is recommended IKSI (with what I polnstju agree), what to you a difference WHY such low share is active or activly-mobile? Try to specify at the attending physician how tactics of treatment if you will hand over all analyses (I think what not free-of-charge) will change, whether something will be possible or probable after finding-out of the reason cardinally to change? If you can receive distinct answers to these or it voprosy-means you go correct by.





Tests have revealed Urevplazmos.. Old and deep..



Presence of a ureaplasma even at carrying out of crops in low credits without clinical displays of inflammatory process yet is not an occasion for carrying out of antibacterial therapy.

There are no convincing data in the literature on communication or connection ureaplazmennoj an infection and sterility or barrenness.

For normotsenoza (a normal microflora of vulval or vaginal contents at the woman) presence of genital mycoplasmas - M.hominis and U. urealyticum which meet at 2-15 % of sexly active women while M. fermentas are defined or determined seldom [Bartlet J. G., Polk B. F. Bacterial flora of the vagina is characteristic: quantitative study // Rev. Infect. Dis. 1984, 6, S67-S72., Isenberg H.D., Painter B.D. Indigenous and pathogenic microorganisms of humans // in: Manual of Clinical Microbiol. - Eds. E. H. Lennette, A. Balows, W.J. Hausler et al. 3rd end. Washington: A.S.M. 1980. - 25-39.]. Accordingly and in a microflora of a genitourinary tract of the man they can be defined or determined.

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*gt; *gt; *gt; there Are no convincing data in the literature on communication or connection *gt; *gt; *gt; ureaplazmennoj infections and sterility or barrenness.





prokomentiruje please this text.



So much the different information. And all different. I simply do not know already to that to believe and to that was not present.





At absence of treatment signs of disease quickly disappear also an inflammation passes in the chronic form. Ureaplazmennaja the infection remains in an organism and after a while again causes an exacerbation. Thus inflammatory process passes to a prostate and seed or spermatic blisters or blebs, causing chronic ureaplazmennyj a prostatitis and a vesiculitis more often. There is enough often after certain time the chronic bilateral epididymitis which quickly comes to an end with an obliteration of an epididymis and obturatsionnoj the form of sterility or barrenness develops. At development ureaplazmennogo an orchitis probably disturbance of secretory function of testicles and development of the secretory form of sterility or barrenness. Also can develop mikoplazmennye a cystitis and a pyelonephritis.



http: // www.doctor-sex.ru/index1.phtml? i=6



I not the expert also do not know that the word obturatsionnoj means







To me just from last analyses have appointed or nominated uzi a prostate.



Today I go...

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Dear B.Kamenetsky





If my last post will seem that I doubt of your words understand me correctly. I do not doubt of your words. I now simply want In all razobratsja. And my questions as NONSPECIALIST can seem to you reproaching. Understand please me correctly.



I can incomplete to you the information I give?

Something important I keep back on ignorance.





The diagnosis to me have put astenozospermija.



The doctor has told or said that to me far up to IKSI. Still so to say in peredi.



I spent tests.



The analysis of a blood (Prolactinum 21.7 should be 2.5-17), urine,

The test for DNA

Juice of a prostate.

The analysis on hormones (*quot; ?OUON*quot; in the channel of a member thrust (painfully......))

Today uzi a prostate

[boris]

Uv. Hermitap!



*gt; *gt; *gt; there Are no convincing data in the literature on communication or connection *gt; *gt; *gt; ureaplazmennoj infections and sterility or barrenness. prokomentiruje please this text.

It means, that at job with references if you will try to find data of the meta-analysis or randomizirovannye researches (which on a degree of reliability of the presented data are the most informative) in occasion of communication or connection miko/OONa?a??N??? infections and sterilities or barrennesses as man's and female, you will not find such acknowledgement or confirmation. There are reports (as a rule retrospective researches)/was far not the best variant for objective conclusions by virtue of the prejudiced attitude or relation to data issledovatelja/which ??/ureaplasma kontatirujut that fact that in group of fruitless patients has been allocated with this or that frequency, and after the spent treatment (if this research describes man's sterility or barrenness) subjective tests for a fecundity have been considerably improved, and at research of women parameters of offensive or approach of pregnancy or vynashivanija have changed. I (by virtue of their low demonstrative base) concern to such reports skeptically.

The endurance or quotation resulted or brought by you from popular clause or article on one of sites considers or examines;surveys only one (far not unequivocal) and with strong " condensed Oa?a??*quot; the point of view also misses the second (which does not assume treatment in the specified clinic) the point of view.

I not the expert also do not know that the word obturatsionnoj means

*quot; AiOOOa???an*quot; literally at a full occlusion semjavynosjashchego a duct and, as consequence or investigation absence in an ejaculate of spermatozoons in general (that at you by the way speaking it is not observed).

In the given situation I can repeat the previous report only:



Try to specify at the attending physician how tactics of treatment if you will hand over all analyses will change, whether something will be possible or probable after finding-out of the reason cardinally to change?

If you can receive distinct answers to these or it voprosy-means you go correct by.

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All tests has passed or has taken place. Have appointed or nominated treatment.



Diagnosis Ureaplazmennyj a prostatitis and toxic bezplodie.



Have appointed or nominated treatment to 1 month, it is A lot of all.



Vobenzim

Aveloks

Viferon 2

Vitamin E

prostatilen

Will put down

Parladel.





In 2 weeks the repeated analysis on Prolactinum..



On my question to the Doctor the success of treatment is how much possible or probable.

The doctor has told or said that anybody never will give 100 %. But he is assured or confident of a positive take on 90 %

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Here has returned to a forum to inform on results treatment.



Was late nemenog but nevertheless..



To my son 1 years and 2 months.. All natural by... Here:cool:





Look a picture in attachmente

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Here has returned to a forum to inform on results of treatment.



Was late nemenog but nevertheless..



To my son 1 years and 2 months.. All natural by... Here:cool:





Look a picture in attachmente











Call Alesha...:o

[AJIEHKA]

I congratulate:) at you very pretty son.

[Natalia1]

I congratulate:) Miracles happen. Not all so carries.

[boris]

Sincerely you I congratulate. Very much I want, that we (doctors) in similar situations were mistaken is more often. Success to you and health.



With admiration

B.Kamenetsky