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Lena
30.08.2004, 05:06
Hello the doctor!
Very closely or attentively I watch or I keep up your advice or councils and discussions on your site.
Now I needed your advice or council.
My case history:
31 year the beginning of a sexual life 29 menustruatsii regular 14 years on 6 through 27.
Prior to the beginning of a sexual life nothing disturbed therefore to doctors did not address
29 years mikro abortion
30 years zabermenila till 8 weeks disturbed nothing on 8 week (June 2000) after strong stress has begun botched work in a municipal hospital have made a currettage the diagnosis: spontaneous vykidysh (it is followed a policy vostonavlivajushchej therapies of 2 3 weeks)
The menses has come in a month without deviations or rejections

2 menses with a delay of 5 8 days for 5 days brown botched work at monthly disturbed back pains.
The doctor has diagnosed dysfunction of ovaries and has appointed or nominated observations of US in the beginning and the extremity or end of a cycle. 2 months Uzi showed insignificant polycystic changes of ovaries also occurrence of a follicular cyst (accuracy of terms I do not guarantee) in naachle a cycle and disappearance or eradication in the extremity or end. As the hormonal analysis has been appointed or nominated
TTG 2.5 - norm or rate
3 svobodn - 5.9 norm or rate
4 12.5 norm or rate
LG 5 norm or rate
FSG 3.5 norm or rate
Prolactinum 657 at norm or rate 540
Testeron 2.4 norm or rate
Estradinol 356 norm or rate
progosteron 4.4 norm or rate
17 ON-Programs 22.7 at norm or rate 5, 9
Hydrocortisone 610 norm or rate
DGA-Zinci sulfas of a blood 6890 at norm or rate 5500
DGA-Zinci sulfas wet more than 8000 at norm or rate 2000

By results of the analysis the doctor has put following diagnoses:
Dysfunction
Gibeprolaktenija
giperanurogenija (s-m SHtejn - kakogoto?)
Polycystosis of ovaries
OAA (I do not know that such)
As the doctor has told or said what is it and caused an abortion and has directed on MRT adrenals and also has asked to hand over Prolactinum repeatedly

MRT has shown that adrenals in norm or rate of the normal sizes and. t. d umerenaja a hyperplasia of the left adrenal and also polycystic change of ovaries, however the doctor done or made MRT has told or said that it is necessary to search for the reason of change of a hormonal background in other.

The repeated analysis of Prolactinum has given following value or meanings;importance 813 at norm or rate 540.
The attending physician making a helpless gesture has directed on MRT a pituitary body and Uzi vessels of ovaries.

MRT gipoviza has shown that a pituitary body within the limits of norm or rate (with moderately non-uniform structure or frame)
The US of vessels of ovaries has not revealed deviations or rejections in organs of a small basin.

The attending physician again making a helpless gesture has left the diagnosis:
Dysfunction
Gibeprolaktenija
giperanurogenija
OAA (I do not know that such)
Also has appointed or nominated treatment:
Dexamethazonum
Dostineks in current of two months then repeated hormones and in case of a positive take pregnancy not earlier chere 6 months.
Now questions: (I want will make a reservation, that I am observed in one of the leading centers of a reproduction with a world or global name and qualification of the doctor does not raise the doubts)
1. How I understand all diagnoses put to me it only consequence or investigation, in what then the reason? (considering favorable analyses)
2. Whether it is necessary to accept two months such strong medicine as dostineks, at not so appreciable excess of Prolactinum? (and satisfactory MRT gipoviza)
3. Whether really it has served as the reason of an abortion and it is impossible to become pregnant the nearest 6 8 months.
4. Can be faces to reception of data lekarst to check up shitovidku (under old analyses 1 1.5 back nabljudals moderated or moderate gipoehogennye educations up to 3 4 mmm and a nodule 0.5)? The Attending physician on numerous my questions on shchitovidke has told or said that garmony shchitovidki in norm or rate and it is not necessary to hammer in a head.
5. As I ask on to comment on opinion of my Mum there were no analyses all beremenili Earlier and gave birth or travailled, and it is not necessary to hammer to itself in a head all sores from a head. As a last resort to have a drink month another borovuju a uterus and to become pregnant, pregnancy in itself treats these sores!


Very much I ask to answer my questions very much I want children and to hand over analyses already nehvataet not forces not money.
In advance thanks for the answer! Elena

Pasenjuk A.M.
30.08.2004, 11:40
1. Under the description is available SPKJA (syndrome SHtejna Leventalja) therefore can be giperanrdrogenija (risings of man's hormones), complicated giperprolaktiemiej (to which it is unessential that was opuhol-enough that any cells began to develop or produce more hormone). It also is the reason.
2. I cannot change purpose or appointment of the doctor because dostinesk the good preparation and your doctor has chosen this preparation.
3. giperandrgenija can cause an abortion
4. I think, that business not in a thyroid gland, as hormones in norm or rate
5. Try or taste (the truth I do not know, that such borovaja a uterus and as she will help or assist to bear or take out pregnancy........)

pr. Melnichenko
30.08.2004, 16:35
Lenochka, you are competently surveyed. On the basis of data about 17 and DEAS at you diagnostirrovana adrenal giperandrogenija. Nonclassical congenital dysfunction of a cortex of adrenals. This disease meets at everyone 16 32 women on the Earth. More often at juzhanok. And in the softest form only changes a figure and gives superfluous hair and spots in a youth. Preventing to become pregnant at mature age. A polycystosis of ovaries (it zabolevnanie sometimes name s-mom SHtejna - Leventalja, you godlessly muddles both names of hormones. And diagnoses), no less than giperprolaktinemija, are secondary in the given situation. Though your mum also is convinced. That earlier all became pregnant, she, it is visible. Does not remember history Rahili. You dejsitvitelno accept Dexamethazonum in small doses nanoch. dostineks it is hardly necessary (by the way. He completely not superstrong and why you are afraid of it or him?). After any abortion it is impossible to become pregnant half a year, it is harmful to the uterus

The doctor
31.08.2004, 05:02
> Yours faithfully, Tatyana Anatolevna Ohtyrskaja, the doctor akusher-the gynecologist
The center of the Immunology and Reproduction (Moscow)
http: cir. Moscow time. ru
E-mail: gynodoct@mtu-net. ru
Bodies: 095 979 77 34
Your questions send please on gynodoct@mtu-net. ru
> __________________________________________________ _______________
>
> Answer: Hello, Lena! Excuse, but we do not make comments on purpose or appointment of others
Doctors. Most likely, at the moment problems (an irregular cycle and
Changes in ovaries) are connected with the raised or increased level of Prolactinum. Prolactinum it
Hormone of a pituitary body. Its or his rising can have organic character (an adenoma
Pituitary body - this moment you have excluded having made MRT skulls), or functional. In
Your case most likely a releaser which has led to rising
Prolactinum, there was an abortion and a stressful situation. The raised or increased level of Prolactinum
Leads to disturbance of an ovulation, a failure of a yellow body in 2 phase
Cycle, irregular monthly, to sterility or barrenness. As a result of disturbance of maturing
Follicles at US polycystic changes in ovaries are found out and
There is rising DEA and 17 0 (as normal ways are broken
Metabolism of hormones). At treatment giperprolaktinemii are used
The preparations reducing a level of Prolactinum and restoring
Ovulation (Dostineks, Prolactinum). Considering your indicating on regular
The menstrual cycle in the past, hardly an abortion has been caused hormonal
Deviations or Rejections. Most likely, rising of a level of Prolactinum has arisen again, and
The abortion has been connected with a stressful situation. But, if you plan
Pregnancy it is desirable to exclude immunologic factors up to pregnancy
nevynashivanija pregnancy (if these factors are present in concrete
To married couple they basically render the negative influence on early
Terms till 12 weeks). These factors korregirujutsja also allow to avoid many
Complications during pregnancy, and at svoevremennonachatoj corrections
Pregnancy proceeds normally. This inspection and treatment can be passed or taken place in
Our Center (analyses, unfortunately, dear or expensive, but the prices not other-wordly). Considering
Data cited by you it would be necessary to make following analyses: 1. HLA-DR
Identification - 900. And SKL (the mixed culture of lymphocytes) - 900. These analyses
Spouses allow to define or determine how much or as far as are similar or various on antigens
Fabric compatibility. The fetus is half foreign for an organism
Mothers, t. To. Half of fibers inherits from the father. If spouses are close on
To antigens of fabric compatibility the organism of mother can not distinguish or not
As it is necessary to distinguish a germ, and thus are not started immune
The reactions necessary for conservation of pregnancy. These analyses surrender together with
The husband. 2. An immunogram (a high level of some versions of lymphocytes
Leads to disturbance of implantation of a germ in mucous uteruses and to disturbances in
Formation of a placenta) - 1080> 3. The analysis of a blood on autoantibodies-
600., gemostaziogramma - 350. - diagnostics antifosfolipidnogo a syndrome (at
High level autoat there is a disturbance of implantation, defective or incomplete
Implantation, development of microclottages in vessels of a placenta, as a result - disturbance
Developments of a germ, a placental failure, a fetal hypoxia
Fetus, serious forms gestoza). Record on these inspections by phone of ours
The center 979 77 34 It is necessary to make US of a thyroid gland (considering, that
In the past any changes have been found out. Some changes in thyroid
To iron or gland can proceed without disturbance of function, but despite of it it is desirable
To supervise the sizes of these educations). Hormonal inspection
It is desirable to add with the analysis of a blood on an insulin and S-a peptide. OAA is
Reduction from otjagoshchennyj the obstetric anamnesis (this diagnosis was
It is exposed, - visible, considering abortion and an abortion in the past). Sometimes doctors write
OAGA (otjagoshchennyj akushersko-the gynecologic anamnesis). Concerning opinion
Your mum: I do not wish to write, that she not the right, but the medicine on a place is not necessary and
Earlier there were no modern methods of diagnostics and treatment of sterility or barrenness and
nevynashivanija pregnancy also was not such results which are reached or achieved in
Present or True time. Problems with conception and vynashivaniem pregnancy existed and
Earlier, but it is simple people addressed with this problem (in fact since then a level less
Lives has improved, and people became closer or more attentive to the health and health
The future generation), and diagnostics was not such modern. If not
Difficultly, write please, what such borovaja a uterus?

The doctor
01.09.2004, 07:31
> Yours faithfully, Tatyana Anatolevna Ohtyrskaja, the doctor akusher-the gynecologist
The center of the Immunology and Reproduction (Moscow)
http: cir. Moscow time. ru
E-mail: gynodoct@mtu-net. ru
Bodies: 095 979 77 34
Your questions send please on gynodoct@mtu-net. ru
> __________________________________________________ _______________
>
> Answer: Hello, Lena! Excuse, but we do not make comments on purpose or appointment of others
Doctors. Most likely, at the moment problems (an irregular cycle and
Changes in ovaries) are connected with the raised or increased level of Prolactinum. Prolactinum it
Hormone of a pituitary body. Its or his rising can have organic character (an adenoma
Pituitary body - this moment you have excluded having made MRT skulls), or functional. In
Your case most likely a releaser which has led to rising
Prolactinum, there was an abortion and a stressful situation. The raised or increased level of Prolactinum
Leads to disturbance of an ovulation, a failure of a yellow body in 2 phase
Cycle, irregular monthly, to sterility or barrenness. As a result of disturbance of maturing
Follicles at US polycystic changes in ovaries are found out and
There is rising DEA and 17 0 (as normal ways are broken
Metabolism of hormones). At treatment giperprolaktinemii are used
The preparations reducing a level of Prolactinum and restoring
Ovulation (Dostineks, Prolactinum). Considering your indicating on regular
The menstrual cycle in the past, hardly an abortion has been caused hormonal
Deviations or Rejections. Most likely, rising of a level of Prolactinum has arisen again, and
The abortion has been connected with a stressful situation. But, if you plan
Pregnancy it is desirable to exclude immunologic factors up to pregnancy
nevynashivanija pregnancy (if these factors are present in concrete
To married couple they basically render the negative influence on early
Terms till 12 weeks). These factors korregirujutsja also allow to avoid many
Complications during pregnancy, and at svoevremennonachatoj corrections
Pregnancy proceeds normally. This inspection and treatment can be passed or taken place in
Our Center (analyses, unfortunately, dear or expensive, but the prices not other-wordly). Considering
Data cited by you it would be necessary to make following analyses: 1. HLA-DR
Identification - 900. And SKL (the mixed culture of lymphocytes) - 900. These analyses
Spouses allow to define or determine how much or as far as are similar or various on antigens
Fabric compatibility. The fetus is half foreign for an organism
Mothers, t. To. Half of fibers inherits from the father. If spouses are close on
To antigens of fabric compatibility the organism of mother can not distinguish or not
As it is necessary to distinguish a germ, and thus are not started immune
The reactions necessary for conservation of pregnancy. These analyses surrender together with
The husband. 2. An immunogram (a high level of some versions of lymphocytes
Leads to disturbance of implantation of a germ in mucous uteruses and to disturbances in
Formation of a placenta) - 1080> 3. The analysis of a blood on autoantibodies-
600., gemostaziogramma - 350. - diagnostics antifosfolipidnogo a syndrome (at
High level autoat there is a disturbance of implantation, defective or incomplete
Implantation, development of microclottages in vessels of a placenta, as a result - disturbance
Developments of a germ, a placental failure, a fetal hypoxia
Fetus, serious forms gestoza). Record on these inspections by phone of ours
The center 979 77 34 It is necessary to make US of a thyroid gland (considering, that
In the past any changes have been found out. Some changes in thyroid
To iron or gland can proceed without disturbance of function, but despite of it it is desirable
To supervise the sizes of these educations). Hormonal inspection
It is desirable to add with the analysis of a blood on an insulin and S-a peptide. OAA is
Reduction from otjagoshchennyj the obstetric anamnesis (this diagnosis was
It is exposed, - visible, considering abortion and an abortion in the past). Sometimes doctors write
OAGA (otjagoshchennyj akushersko-the gynecologic anamnesis). Concerning opinion
Your mum: I do not wish to write, that she not the right, but the medicine on a place is not necessary and
Earlier there were no modern methods of diagnostics and treatment of sterility or barrenness and
nevynashivanija pregnancy also was not such results which are reached or achieved in
Present or True time. Problems with conception and vynashivaniem pregnancy existed and
Earlier, but it is simple people addressed with this problem (in fact since then a level less
Lives has improved, and people became closer or more attentive to the health and health
The future generation), and diagnostics was not such modern. If not
Difficultly, write please, what such borovaja a uterus?

The doctor
02.09.2004, 16:18
> Yours faithfully, Tatyana Anatolevna Ohtyrskaja, the doctor akusher-the gynecologist
The center of the Immunology and Reproduction (Moscow)
http: cir. Moscow time. ru
E-mail: gynodoct@mtu-net. ru
Bodies: 095 979 77 34
Your questions send please on gynodoct@mtu-net. ru
> __________________________________________________ _______________
>
> Answer: Hello, Lena! Excuse, but we do not make comments on purpose or appointment of others
Doctors. Most likely, at the moment problems (an irregular cycle and
Changes in ovaries) are connected with the raised or increased level of Prolactinum. Prolactinum it
Hormone of a pituitary body. Its or his rising can have organic character (an adenoma
Pituitary body - this moment you have excluded having made MRT skulls), or functional. In
Your case most likely a releaser which has led to rising
Prolactinum, there was an abortion and a stressful situation. The raised or increased level of Prolactinum
Leads to disturbance of an ovulation, a failure of a yellow body in 2 phase
Cycle, irregular monthly, to sterility or barrenness. As a result of disturbance of maturing
Follicles at US polycystic changes in ovaries are found out and
There is rising DEA and 17 0 (as normal ways are broken
Metabolism of hormones). At treatment giperprolaktinemii are used
The preparations reducing a level of Prolactinum and restoring
Ovulation (Dostineks, Prolactinum). Considering your indicating on regular
The menstrual cycle in the past, hardly an abortion has been caused hormonal
Deviations or Rejections. Most likely, rising of a level of Prolactinum has arisen again, and
The abortion has been connected with a stressful situation. But, if you plan
Pregnancy it is desirable to exclude immunologic factors up to pregnancy
nevynashivanija pregnancy (if these factors are present in concrete
To married couple they basically render the negative influence on early
Terms till 12 weeks). These factors korregirujutsja also allow to avoid many
Complications during pregnancy, and at svoevremennonachatoj corrections
Pregnancy proceeds normally. This inspection and treatment can be passed or taken place in
Our Center (analyses, unfortunately, dear or expensive, but the prices not other-wordly). Considering
Data cited by you it would be necessary to make following analyses: 1. HLA-DR
Identification - 900. And SKL (the mixed culture of lymphocytes) - 900. These analyses
Spouses allow to define or determine how much or as far as are similar or various on antigens
Fabric compatibility. The fetus is half foreign for an organism
Mothers, t. To. Half of fibers inherits from the father. If spouses are close on
To antigens of fabric compatibility the organism of mother can not distinguish or not
As it is necessary to distinguish a germ, and thus are not started immune
The reactions necessary for conservation of pregnancy. These analyses surrender together with
The husband. 2. An immunogram (a high level of some versions of lymphocytes
Leads to disturbance of implantation of a germ in mucous uteruses and to disturbances in
Formation of a placenta) - 1080> 3. The analysis of a blood on autoantibodies-
600., gemostaziogramma - 350. - diagnostics antifosfolipidnogo a syndrome (at
High level autoat there is a disturbance of implantation, defective or incomplete
Implantation, development of microclottages in vessels of a placenta, as a result - disturbance
Developments of a germ, a placental failure, a fetal hypoxia
Fetus, serious forms gestoza). Record on these inspections by phone of ours
The center 979 77 34 It is necessary to make US of a thyroid gland (considering, that
In the past any changes have been found out. Some changes in thyroid
To iron or gland can proceed without disturbance of function, but despite of it it is desirable
To supervise the sizes of these educations). Hormonal inspection
It is desirable to add with the analysis of a blood on an insulin and S-a peptide. OAA is
Reduction from otjagoshchennyj the obstetric anamnesis (this diagnosis was
It is exposed, - visible, considering abortion and an abortion in the past). Sometimes doctors write
OAGA (otjagoshchennyj akushersko-the gynecologic anamnesis). Concerning opinion
Your mum: I do not wish to write, that she not the right, but the medicine on a place is not necessary and
Earlier there were no modern methods of diagnostics and treatment of sterility or barrenness and
nevynashivanija pregnancy also was not such results which are reached or achieved in
Present or True time. Problems with conception and vynashivaniem pregnancy existed and
Earlier, but it is simple people addressed with this problem (in fact since then a level less
Lives has improved, and people became closer or more attentive to the health and health
The future generation), and diagnostics was not such modern. If not
Difficultly, write please, what such borovaja a uterus?

The doctor
02.09.2004, 22:08
> Yours faithfully, Tatyana Anatolevna Ohtyrskaja, the doctor akusher-the gynecologist
The center of the Immunology and Reproduction (Moscow)
http: cir. Moscow time. ru
E-mail: gynodoct@mtu-net. ru
Bodies: 095 979 77 34
Your questions send please on gynodoct@mtu-net. ru
> __________________________________________________ _______________
>
> Answer: Hello, Lena! Excuse, but we do not make comments on purpose or appointment of others
Doctors. Most likely, at the moment problems (an irregular cycle and
Changes in ovaries) are connected with the raised or increased level of Prolactinum. Prolactinum it
Hormone of a pituitary body. Its or his rising can have organic character (an adenoma
Pituitary body - this moment you have excluded having made MRT skulls), or functional. In
Your case most likely a releaser which has led to rising
Prolactinum, there was an abortion and a stressful situation. The raised or increased level of Prolactinum
Leads to disturbance of an ovulation, a failure of a yellow body in 2 phase
Cycle, irregular monthly, to sterility or barrenness. As a result of disturbance of maturing
Follicles at US polycystic changes in ovaries are found out and
There is rising DEA and 17 0 (as normal ways are broken
Metabolism of hormones). At treatment giperprolaktinemii are used
The preparations reducing a level of Prolactinum and restoring
Ovulation (Dostineks, Prolactinum). Considering your indicating on regular
The menstrual cycle in the past, hardly an abortion has been caused hormonal
Deviations or Rejections. Most likely, rising of a level of Prolactinum has arisen again, and
The abortion has been connected with a stressful situation. But, if you plan
Pregnancy it is desirable to exclude immunologic factors up to pregnancy
nevynashivanija pregnancy (if these factors are present in concrete
To married couple they basically render the negative influence on early
Terms till 12 weeks). These factors korregirujutsja also allow to avoid many
Complications during pregnancy, and at svoevremennonachatoj corrections
Pregnancy proceeds normally. This inspection and treatment can be passed or taken place in
Our Center (analyses, unfortunately, dear or expensive, but the prices not other-wordly). Considering
Data cited by you it would be necessary to make following analyses: 1. HLA-DR
Identification - 900. And SKL (the mixed culture of lymphocytes) - 900. These analyses
Spouses allow to define or determine how much or as far as are similar or various on antigens
Fabric compatibility. The fetus is half foreign for an organism
Mothers, t. To. Half of fibers inherits from the father. If spouses are close on
To antigens of fabric compatibility the organism of mother can not distinguish or not
As it is necessary to distinguish a germ, and thus are not started immune
The reactions necessary for conservation of pregnancy. These analyses surrender together with
The husband. 2. An immunogram (a high level of some versions of lymphocytes
Leads to disturbance of implantation of a germ in mucous uteruses and to disturbances in
Formation of a placenta) - 1080> 3. The analysis of a blood on autoantibodies-
600., gemostaziogramma - 350. - diagnostics antifosfolipidnogo a syndrome (at
High level autoat there is a disturbance of implantation, defective or incomplete
Implantation, development of microclottages in vessels of a placenta, as a result - disturbance
Developments of a germ, a placental failure, a fetal hypoxia
Fetus, serious forms gestoza). Record on these inspections by phone of ours
The center 979 77 34 It is necessary to make US of a thyroid gland (considering, that
In the past any changes have been found out. Some changes in thyroid
To iron or gland can proceed without disturbance of function, but despite of it it is desirable
To supervise the sizes of these educations). Hormonal inspection
It is desirable to add with the analysis of a blood on an insulin and S-a peptide. OAA is
Reduction from otjagoshchennyj the obstetric anamnesis (this diagnosis was
It is exposed, - visible, considering abortion and an abortion in the past). Sometimes doctors write
OAGA (otjagoshchennyj akushersko-the gynecologic anamnesis). Concerning opinion
Your mum: I do not wish to write, that she not the right, but the medicine on a place is not necessary and
Earlier there were no modern methods of diagnostics and treatment of sterility or barrenness and
nevynashivanija pregnancy also was not such results which are reached or achieved in
Present or True time. Problems with conception and vynashivaniem pregnancy existed and
Earlier, but it is simple people addressed with this problem (in fact since then a level less
Lives has improved, and people became closer or more attentive to the health and health
The future generation), and diagnostics was not such modern. If not
Difficultly, write please, what such borovaja a uterus?