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Serg2004
01.09.2004, 19:30
Prompt please to that of two doctors to believe? Pregnancy 31 week, edemas of legs or foots, arms or hand and faces about 3 weeks ago have begun. Analyses of a blood and urine are, only I do not know that particularly you need to describe (them, it is a lot of analyses). From the very beginning of pregnancy accepted Dexamethazonum, aktovegin and magne 6, has now cancelled all. I pass or I take place treatment by a homeopathy in occasion of a thyroid gland - hormones 4 and TTG are lowered.

One doctor has registered to me an albuminous diet, the grassy collecting from a camomile, a sage, evkalipta both parsleys and the control over weight and pressure, and another insists on full exception of animal protein of a ration and acceptance of bioadditives of Zincum and chrome and purification or ablution of an organism by a clyster with a lemon juice. Simply mutually exclusive purposes or appointments, I do not know whom to listen and to not do much harm to the child this treatment: (:confused:

Excuse for the chaotic description if specification of analyses or still or even any data is necessary, it is ready to write.

vova
01.09.2004, 19:30
*quot; I Pass or I Take place treatment by a homeopathy in occasion of a thyroid gland - hormones 4 and ??a*quot are lowered; - I am sorry, but whether your doctor who should be in norm or rate level TTG in the first trimester at pregnant women, in the second, in the third which 4 defined or determined knows.....

Business in that. That as the person who has introduced (I am afraid, that on the a head) research of the certain parameters concerning a thyroid gland, at pregnant women, I very badly understand the text received from you...

But more all me confuses olimpijski the quiet description of this puffiness and its or her treatment. Dear gynecologists, help or assist...

Madam the Pain
01.09.2004, 19:30
I suspect that the doctor is guided in norms or rates of hormones for pregnant women..., 4- the general or common, like so I also have written.

As I not the doctor, and deeply pregnant girl I while too badly understand you:)))

The description also should be likely quiet, in fact in a panic there is nothing good, I am concerned by these edemas, but to tear hair on a head I do not consider necessary in treatment of these or it..... I ask advice or council and everything, neponimaju in what I am wrong?

masyachka
01.09.2004, 19:30
Dear natus!

For advantage or benefit of business or affairs let's start speak about digits.

Result or Bring here the general or common analysis wet, the general or common and biohimicheski the analysis of a blood, results of research of hormones SHCHZH.

ems
01.09.2004, 19:30
At pregnant women it is not recommended to define or determine the general or common 4

1
01.09.2004, 19:30
The general or common wet: glu-norm, pro-neg., bil-neg., uro-norm, ph-6.0, s.g.-1,25, blo-neg., ket-neg., nit-neg., leu-neg, color-with, a transparence-., density-1025, reaction-., fiber and Saccharum-is written by hand something of type abs; an acetone, a bilirubin, -was negatively; a flat epithelium-a few or -a little;-little bit; leucocytes--1-3 in sight.

Biochemistry of a blood: a glucose-3,8 3,9-6,4; -6,5 3,1-5,2; the general or common 65,9 66,0-87,0; a creatinine 70,2 44,0-80,0; 3,1 1,7-8,3; the general or common bilirubin 5,9 3,4-17,0; 35,0 norm or rate 0-31,0; 37,0 norm or rate 0-32,0; ast/a?O 0,94 =1,33; GGT 8,0 7,0-32,0; LDG 2576,0 norm or rate 207,0-414,0.

: 0,8 norm or rate 1,5-2,5; 4 98 norm or rate 100-180

Hydrocortisone 446 norm or rate 200-400

17- 9,6 norm or rate 6,1-14,1

-S 1,6 norm or rate 0,9-11,7

And more a hypercoagulation of a blood

These are analyses for March, 24th, before no deviations or rejections existing.

Henry
01.09.2004, 19:30
TTG defined or determined sets with low sensitivity, data are not informative. For obsldedovanija on 8-12 week it is necessary to pregnant women ispolzvat high-strung or highly sensitive sets, idea tiroidnyh problems it is possible to dismiss.. Certainly, you and your doctor remember, that, in sootvestvii with rekomnedatsijami the CART of pregnant women require additional reception of iodides (iodomarin, an iodide, or vitamins C an iodine)

irene akalatovi
01.09.2004, 19:30
Certainly we remember about iodides, but I prefer a diet rich with an iodine and plus a homeopathic iodine since advantage or benefit for a unhealthy thyroid gland to receive above-stated you preparations sporna as you likely know. And in a nonpregnant status at me analyses usually same on SHCHZH or still below.

*quot; for obsldedovanija pregnant women on 8-12 ?NnN?N*quot; and further too, at me 32-nd week goes?

_dark_an
01.09.2004, 19:30
Homeopathic doses ioda-75 mkg, *quot; a??aO??N??N*quot; - 100 and 200 mkg. The CART recommends the pregnant women living in region iodnogo of deficiency, 200 mkg day.

Ispolzovnaie products rich with an iodine it is necessary to welcome, especially if an iodine in them sohranjatesja, despite of transportation and body height of this product on iododefitsitnoj to the ground..

If the level of yours TTG always izmerjatesja with low sensitivity hardly you udastsja to learn or find out as iron or gland works as sets. At 95 % healthy ljudj norm or rate TTG-0, 5-2, 5 honey \ml.

As to definition of the general or common 4 outside of pregnancy and in this situation its or his level is quite often less informative.

But in objazanosti the doctor statement diagnoza-enters as disease of your thyroid gland is called?

But it is more important drugoe-at YOU is not present zabolevaija a thyroid gland, explaining a delay of a liquid. And job from the pregnant woman without disease shchitovdinoj glands not is a problem or task of the endocrinologist. I hope, that gynecologists (family doctors) will find an opportunity to help or assist you.

Vasily
01.09.2004, 19:30
Thanks for the detailed answer as I not the doctor, cannot precisely tell or say to you with what the test-systems use usually laboratories in which I hand over analyses.

In occasion of the concrete diagnosis I can tell or say only about presence of sites in SHCHZH, and the opinion of several endocrinologists on that that simultaneous depression TTG and 4 is impossible, i.e. takes place to be a mistake or an error of laboratory and statement of the diagnosis gipoterioz with propisyvaniem hormonal therapy me at all does not arrange.

The hope for the response akusherov me does not leave or abandon gynecologists:)

TatjanaPikina
01.09.2004, 19:30
Diameter of sites?

odnovremenoe dropping TTG and 4 very much even can be-only not in your situation...

Still raz-TTG - 0.5 - 2, 5 at 95 % of people healthy. Thus TTG define or determine sets, the bottom border of norm or rate in which - 0, 17-0, 2...

nfnmzyf
01.09.2004, 19:30
One doctor has registered to me an albuminous diet, the grassy collecting from a camomile, a sage, evkalipta both parsleys and the control over weight and pressure, and another insists on full exception of animal protein of a ration and acceptance of bioadditives of Zincum and chrome and purification or ablution of an organism by a clyster with a lemon juice.



Forgive or Excuse me, but both the doctor at all in the mind or wit.

Though pressure to watch or keep up, it is really necessary. And analyses of urine to hand over.

The homeopathic iodine is something. Homeopathists did not suggest you to breathe homeopathic oxygen, to drink k water and to put in tea homeopathic Saccharum?

connection
01.09.2004, 19:30
First your statement I pass or miss as offensive for both doctors with scientific degrees and desire really to help or assist not having done much harm.

Pressure and urine in norm or rate. And to treat all successively antibiotics and hormonal preparations too it is inexpedient likely. You have specific proposals and assumptions to an occasion of treatment except for charges in a mental retardation or even explanations of your reasons?

Whence it is so much malice in occasion of a homeopathy?

Mileno4ka
01.09.2004, 19:30
Pressure and urine in norm or rate.

Well and thanks God.

And to treat all successively antibiotics and hormonal preparations too it is inexpedient likely.

It is accomplished correctly.

Faizulla
01.09.2004, 19:30
Yes and here malice - res goes about the weight maintenance or contents of substance.. T.n homeopathic strumel is 75 mkg of an iodide kalija-that in itself homeopathic (it already malice from member-correspondent...)?

But you for myself reshite-yours missija-discussion of treatment hydropic with-mA in 3 trimester or struggle for reputation of doctors (I join an estimation of their references)?

marian
01.09.2004, 19:30
Diameter 1-th up to 4, by the second up to 5, a blood flow is not changed, located in both shares SHCHZH.

Has looked or seen old analyses and in one of them has not found such low borders of norm or rate unfortunately: (

Volodja
01.09.2004, 19:30
Found out in a thyroid gland at US of education in diameter less than 1 sm (in the USA less than 1, 5 sm) are not considered or examined;surveyed as a pathology (kazuisticheski rare or infrequent cases of special family diseases not rasmatrivajutsja) and do not demand special treatment.

It is not necessary to carry out US research of normal thyroid glands at a palpation as in them practically always it is possible to find out the minimal differences from the ideal norm or rate, being a unreasonable occasion for alarms at healthy people.

In region iodnogo deficiency - (Russia and practically all Europe) all inhabitants should use at cooking iodirovanuju salt, besides groups with higher need or requirement for iodides (children, pregnant, feeding) use specially prepared physiological doses of an iodine a-iodide, iodomarin. Vitamins C an iodine

At opredelnii TTG it is necessary to use sets 2 and 3 generations.

MishaLMS
01.09.2004, 19:30
, but it not an occasion treatment of a hydropic syndrome is certainly more interesting to insults of whom or - here my position to me. As I not the DOCTOR - once again repeat, your positions to me will be more clear if you give reason for them in the accessible form as you have made in last report.

Alx
01.09.2004, 19:30
In accessible forme-Yana worried. Whether there are no indications for emergency hospitalization. At a forum there are many gynecologists, and, hope. They will help or assist. And bred-he also is delirium. On it or him do not make comments.

seroup
01.09.2004, 19:30
From your point of view updating of entering of an iodine by means of a homeopathy and jodirovannoj salts and selection jodsoderzhashchih products is noneffective?

In occasion of disease of a thyroid gland: in fact and diagnoses I receive consultations at endocrinologists instead of so gonimyh you homeopathists and everywhere one output or exit - hormones, where to address for pereproverki all?

Evgenie Vas.
01.09.2004, 19:30
Forgive or Excuse, probably, I did not need to be such sharp, but I cannot really understand, how the person can register in the mind or wit to deeply pregnant girl *quot; the grassy collecting from a camomile, a sage, evkalipta both parsleys and purification or ablution of an organism by a clyster with a lemon juice. And quot;:):confused:

OZGdan
01.09.2004, 19:30
*quot; Forgive or Excuse, probably, I did not need to be such sharp, but I cannot really understand, how the person can register in the mind or wit to deeply pregnant girl *quot; the grassy collecting from a camomile, a sage, evkalipta both parsleys and purification or ablution of an organism by a clyster with a lemon juice. And quot; *quot;



I here too do not understand much from their indicatings, have read through much today in an Internet about kidneys and really there are diets from edemas renal, but which correct - do not know: (And I so understand grasses for kidneys: the parsley-diuretic, evkalipt, a camomile and a sage - antiseptics for kidneys, here harm just seems to me is not present, and here sharp restriction of any products seems to me dangerous?????

Vit ` Ok
01.09.2004, 19:30
You do not have renal edemas.

To limit products of pregnant women? Yes for what! Well unless is more than useful products and less pies.

data
01.09.2004, 19:30
Why you consider or count, what renal edemas are not present? In fact there are they as it is necessary to them since morning, and then pass or take place within day a little and I feel, that to a toilet began to go seldom and a little: (though liquids I consume much.

FOZIL
01.09.2004, 19:30
Whether there can be an occurrence of edemas connected with refusal of Dexamethazonum? Or with low consumption of fiber?