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neonatolog
01.09.2004, 19:30
Hello!

The dear doctor, prompt please. To a daughter 3, 5 months. More month it is excruciated by constipations (2 3 days; without stimulation cannot descend or go...). Have made the analysis on a dysbacteriosis, result: (in skobkah-degrees)

Pathogenic microbes simejstva kishechnyh-are not present

Total of an intestinal rod - 10 (5)

Enterococci - 10 (4)

laktozonegativnye enterobakterii - is not present

Hemolyzing E. coli - is not present

laktobakterii - 10 (5)

Percents gemolit. A staphilococcus under the attitude or relation to all

To coccal forms - 10 (4)

bifidobakterii - 10 (9)

Mushrooms of a sort kandida - are not present

Mushrooms plesnevye - are not present

Clostridiums - are not present

Other forms usl. Pathogenic - klebsielly - 10 (3)

Infektsionist has appointed or nominated to us a bacteriophage klebsielly polyvalent 7 days on 5. 2 times a day through a mouth for an hour up to meal and laktobakterii (biovestin-lakto) 24 days.

Pediator has appointed or nominated hlorofillipt (illegibly...) spirtovyj from a staphilococcus of 10 days.

Whether there is a necessity to treat klebsielly, and than this infection is dangerous?

Whether it is necessary to treat a staphilococcus?

The senior daughter (4, 5 years) last time complains of abdominal pains (especially in the evenings after meal and in the morning after awakening), pediator has told or said, that at it or her *quot; there should be same infections and it or she needs to be treated that ?N*quot;, whether to give her these medicines???

Whether it is necessary for mum to hand over analyses on these infections and to be treated?

Many thanks for the answer!

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01.09.2004, 19:30
How much or As far as I understand, klebsielly concern to a is conditional-pathogenic microflora of an intestine...

From all listed purposes or appointments, probably, is worthy only biovestin... And that, with great reserve... However, as was or former infektsionist (worked in this status 12 years ago), as pathogenetic therapy, would recommend klebsielleznyj a bacteriophage... Now it is not assured... Colleagues, we ask the help!

belenkaja
01.09.2004, 19:30
Have made the analysis on a dysbacteriosis

Never any more do not do or make the analysis on disbioz. It or him anywhere in the world do not do or make. Information - 0. Unnecessary excitements for mum. To treat it is necessary nothing.

natusya_
01.09.2004, 19:30
Never any more do not do or make the analysis on disbioz. It or him anywhere in the world do not do or make. Information - 0. Unnecessary excitements for mum. To treat it is necessary nothing.

And what concerning complaints to constipations? With neinformativnostju the analysis on disbioz it agree...

85
01.09.2004, 19:30
You ask me?

sashasan
01.09.2004, 19:30
Except for a constipation



Well, certainly...

Renat
01.09.2004, 19:30
How much and that the child eats and drinks?

Harbo
01.09.2004, 19:30
You ask me?

Well... You have joined in discussion...:rolleyes:

BNatalja
01.09.2004, 19:30
In occasion of a constipation, except for survey (including rectal isledovanie) the pediatrist, it is accepted to do or make two laboratory analyses - FT4+TSH and Ca.

Treatment - a diet, laxatives.

XENYA
01.09.2004, 19:30
Hello!

The dear doctor, prompt please. To a daughter 3, 5 months. More month it is excruciated by constipations (2 3 days; without stimulation cannot descend or go...).

klebsielly - 10 (3)!



Infektsionist has appointed or nominated to us a bacteriophage klebsielly...



Use purposes or appointments infektsionista.



P.S. Colleagues, it is not necessary to go into extremes again in occasion of *quot; n??iaONO??o*quot;, and to transform this topic into the next skirmish or wrangle;)

Fields
01.09.2004, 19:30
Extreme measure - to appoint or nominate to children idiotic analyses to a dysbacteriosis.

Ricky-habit spasms-
01.09.2004, 19:30
How much and that the child eats and drinks?

The child only on thoracal feeding, eats on demand, 6-7 times a day. Constipations have begun in 1,5 months, pediator has advised to give *quot; ?O?*quot; from dried apricots and prunes... We Give, but pyot she a little (somewhere 20-30 ml.). Water too almost pyot. Mum keeps to a diet.

bobah
01.09.2004, 19:30
That does not drink water is badly...

And with opinion Alona concerning research TTG and over 4 it agree.

IREN
01.09.2004, 19:30
That does not drink water is badly...

And with opinion Alona concerning research TTG and over 4 it agree.

Tell or Say, please, and how much the child should drink water for a day?

What is this researches and who appoints or nominates them? And more a question: whether such problems can be connected with a constipation with a neurology??? http: // forums./showthread.php? t=13907

Or all to treat klebsielly and staphilococcuses?

Iljushik
01.09.2004, 19:30
Or all to treat klebsielly and staphilococcuses?

In no event!